Genealogy Chat

Hi,
I'm after some advice - very new to all this.

I have found my G.G. Grandmother in the 1901 and 1881 census'. She is listed as Lizzie Lantaff aged 54 (widow) in 1901 and Elizabeth Lantaff aged 34 (widow) in 1881. I can't find her under Lantaff in the 1871 census so I'm thinking she maybe got married between the two?

How can I find out her maiden surname? I don't know what her husbands name was but have checked a few possibles but they don't seem to match because of the dates and names of later children.

I know she had 3 children - Emily, George and Susan so thought the easiest way would be to try and find their birth certificates and see if the father is named. My grandmother was Emily Lantaff but I can't find her birth either!! She would have been born 1873-1875.

I'm not sure where to go next - any tips appreciated!

Can you tell us where she was born/lived?

OK.........found her in 1881.

Born in St Ives, Hunts..........

Reg

The birth certs would give her maiden name too.

Have you checked on freebmd for a marriage involving a Mr lantaff and an Elizabeth in the right time frame?

Speculating a bit.............

William Buswell 1873 Apr-May-Jun St Ives Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
>>>>> Elizabeth Hobbs 1873 Apr-May-Jun St Ives Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
>>>>> George Lantaff 1873 Apr-May-Jun St Ives Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire

Lydia Georgianna Mutton 1873 Apr-May-Jun St Ives Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire


AND............

Name: George Lantaff
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 45
District: St Ives
County: Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 177


What do you think?

Reg

Marriage looks good - only son mentioned is also George.

When were the children born?

Births Jun 1874 (>99%)
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Lantaff Emma Eliza St. Ives 3b 275

Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
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Lantaff Emily Huntingdon 3b 263

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Births Jun 1880 (>99%)

LANTAFF Susan Jane St. Ives 3b 318

Emily 1873, George 1875 and Susan 1880

Census info..........

Elizabeth Lantaff abt 1847 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Inmate Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire
View Record
Emily Lantaff abt 1873 Old Hurst, Huntingdon, England Inmate Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire
View Record
George Lantaff abt 1875 St Ives, Huntingdon, England Inmate Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire
View Record
Susan Lantaff abt 1880 Hemd Grey, Huntingdon, England Inmate Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire


Reg

Or was gran really Emma not Emily:

Births Jun 1874 (>99%)
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Lantaff Emma Eliza St. Ives 3b 275

Just checking image, Heather.........


Typical.........Ancestry hasn't co-ordinated the image and the index!!

Reg

And possible for George?

Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
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LANTAFF James George St.Ives 3b 281

1891 England Census
about Lizzy Santaff
Name: Lizzy Santaff
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: St Ives, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil parish: Holywell Cum Needingworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist
Town: Holywell Cum Needingworth
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Ives
Sub-registration district: St Ives
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Santaff 16
George Santaff 15
Lizzy Santaff 43
Susan Santaff 10

Emily 1879 died

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Emily Lantaff
Name: Emily Lantaff
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 0
District: Huntingdon
County: Huntingdonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 171 (click to see others on page

IF Elizabeth was a Hobbs.....she was in the workhouse in 1871

Name: Elizabeth Hobbs
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: St Ives, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Hemingford Grey
Town: Hemingford Grey
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England


Registration district: St Ives
Sub-registration district: St Ives
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page

With a daughter...........

Elizabeth Hobbs abt 1868 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Inmate Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire

Reg

I think Emma, Susan and George fit the right dates/areas. I guess Em could easily become Emily.

Blimey, she was back there in the workhouse again with the kids wasnt she. Poor girl.

Poor lady, it looks like her first child died

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Lizzie Hobbs
Name: Lizzie Hobbs
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: St Ives
County: Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 272 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Lizzie Hobbs
Name: Lizzie Hobbs
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 11
DISTRICT: St Ives
County: Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 210 (click to see others on page)

Wow!

You're all so quick. Thanks very much.

Emily was stated as age 8 in 1881 and age 26 in 1901 which would make her estimated Year of birth 1873 to 1875.

Susan was aged 1 in 1881 so EYB 1880 and

George was aged 6 in 1881 so would be about 1875.

I can't find an Emily born in 1873-1875 (I did see the 1879 one Heather but pretty sure that's not the one because I've also found a death record for an Emily Lantaff aged 0 in 1879).

I also can't find George born 1875 but I do think the Susan Jane registered in St Ives 1880 is probably the right one. I'll have to order her birth cert.

With regards to marriage details I have been on my local Registry details (I'm fairly sure that they lived in the St Ives, Huntingdon area) and have found a Jonah Lantaff who married an Elizabeth Cooper in 1871 which I got quite excited about but I've also found him on the 1881 census and I know my one would have been dead by then (Elizabeth stated widow in 1881).
I also found the George Lantaff who married a Hobbs in 1873 and a John who married a Jones in 1876 but again I have found later records of them living so they don't fit.

Sorry if this is a bit garbled - not very good at how you should present stuff yrt but I'm getting there by reading all your hints!

Oh my goodness - I can't type fast enough!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I thought we found George - as above:



And possible for George?

Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
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LANTAFF James George St.Ives 3b 281


Ah, may be you hadnt seen all our info before you typed your first message.

I wonder if Elizabeth was a widow when she married George? You need to get that marriage cert. aswell to get the generation further back.

You know how to order them for £7 each from GRO online? Never pay more than £7. The refs above are the ones you need to order them.

1871 census records Elizabeth as being unmarried

Reg