Genealogy Chat

Thanks brenda i will look tomorrow as i am getting tired, and very very confused.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/ IGIBatchNumbers.

Hi Gwyn,I've given you the web address,but I just type in Hugh Wallis and it should come up.
What you want is where it says country,go to Wales,and then Merioneth,and then it goes onto the initial letter of the town/village.
It makes it easier to section off the different areas than the ordinary IGI does.
Hope I have explained it OK.
Pm me if you have any difficulty.
Brenda

No brenda do you have his site please

I have found a Jane Lloyd on Hugh Wallis site,born in Llanfrothen 1825.

Have you looked on his site?
Brenda

It is very possible that a Lloyd married a Lloyd,as my friend was one who never changed her name.
Remember that Llanfrothen is only a little village,and though they didn't move around much,and tended to inter-marry,I would look up,say Porthmadog,Penrhyndeudreuth,Minfordd,Blaenau Ffestiniog.
I think it is unlikely to be Caernarvon,as this is a bit far.
Llanfrothen is quite near Port Merion where the Prisoner was made,and William Clough Ellis,the designer and owner of Port Merion lived in Llanfrothen.

Don't know if this helps,but I would advise you to look closer than Caernarvon as I know that these village people didn't venture far as a rule.

I have the same problem with my g.g.gran who was called Williams!
Brenda

This is from the freebmd site....of course we don't know who married who.......

Marriages Mar 1850

Jones Ellin Festiniog 27 261
Lloyd William Festiniog 27 261
Owen Jeremiah Festiniog 27 261
Williams Jane Festiniog 27 261


Gwyn

as above nothing with william on it

i have found a marriage with jane williams and a lloyd in caernarvon

i will have a look.

I think that John could be Jane,s son or brother in law

I had a look at the 1881 census and the family had a Laura.

I wonder if this is her birth registration and the middle name could be a clue to her mother's maiden name?


Births Dec 1872

Lloyd Laura Williams Ffestiniog 11b 408


Gwyn

i am not so sure as i am still trying to piece them together as i do not know who is who except my grandmother and my great-grandmother.

Yes trudy i have a gwyneth jones born 1928 (this is my grandmother)

Margartet Jones (who is my great-grandmother, gwyneth's mother)

Richard Lloyd who died 1923 at 85 years of age

Gwlady's Jones who died 1924 at 19 years of age

John Lloyd who died 1894 at 25 years of age

john Henry hughes

Robert henry hughes who died at 11 months old

catherine jane hughes born 1906

harry hughes born 1864

margaret lloyd born 1864

It is on Ancestry....Do you have a subscription?

I think we are looking for a marriage with a Ffestiniog registration....That covers the parish where Jane was born....and is buried...so is the most likely area for the wedding.

When was the eldest child born? Perhaps we can find the most likely timescale.


There are these Janes born about the right time showing on the 1841 census in Llanfrothen......


Jane Edward abt 1828 Merionethshire, Wales Llanfrothen Merionethshire

Jane Edward abt 1827 Llanfrothen Merionethshire

Jane J Evan abt 1828 Merionethshire, Wales Llanfrothen Merionethshire

Jane Humphrey abt 1830 Merionethshire, Wales Llanfrothen Merionethshire

Jane Rees abt 1828 Merionethshire, Wales Llanfrothen Merionethshire

Jane Rowland abt 1827 Merionethshire, Wales Llanfrothen Merionethshire

Jane Thomas abt 1828 Merionethshire, Wales Llanfrothen Merionethshire

Jane William abt 1830 Merionethshire, Wales Llanfrothen Merionethshire

Jane Williams abt 1830 Merionethshire, Wales Llanfrothen Merionethshire



Gwyn

Yes it is John Lloyd he died at about 25 years of age.

Gwyn where do you get the 1891 census please

No she won't feature in the normal lists of bmd lists because she was born before civil registration started in 1837.

Maybe she will be in the Llanfrothen area in 1841 census....with her parents.


Gwyn

I have looked on ancestry an nothing in births for jane lloyd or jane jones born in 1829

This looks like them in 1891.

As the couple were from Merionethshire, it is unlikely that they married in Pembroke.

Name: Jane Lloyd
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanfrothen, Merionethshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Llanfrothen
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanfrothen
Town: Croesor
County/Island: Merionethshire
Country: Wales




Registration district: Festiniog
Sub-registration district: Festiniog
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Lloyd 61
John Lloyd 21
William Lloyd 56
Catherine Williams 23
Catherine Williams 11 weeks
Jane Williams 2
John Williams 23

No i am just doing it now, i have narrowed it down to the year of 1829 to when Jane was born

Do you have any other names in the bible?

Trudy