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Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Maggie	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:25
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Can anyone help I'm at my witsend. I am trying to find records of my step grandfather and grandmother. My step father has told me that their names were Garry H G( or George H G as no-one knew exactly ) St Claire Johnson, born 10th february 1900 or 1901 in Gibralta although lived and died in england. My grandmother's maiden name was ellen Sherman born 5th april (believed) 1921. Believed to have been born in the rochdale area. I can not find either birth marraige or deaths for any of them. I believe that it is the name St Claire Johnson that is the problem, as i cant find my fathers birth either. If any one can help i would be grateful Mags
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 464 Send Message	Steph	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:36
	I have found a birth for Ellen Sherman June Qtr 1922 Ellen Sherman mmn Martindale District Rochdale Vol 8e Page 12
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 5,899 Send Message	♫ Penny €	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:37
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 5,899 Send Message	Hi This is probably his death Gary Henry G St Clare-Johnson Birth Date: 10 Feb 1901 Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 1985 Age at death (estimated): 84 Registration district: Poole Inferred County: Dorset Volume: 23 Page: 765
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 1,817 Send Message	Cheshiremaid	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:37
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 1,817 Send Message	Hi Mags.... There is a birth for an Ellen Sherman b1922 in Rochdale on the Lancashire bmd site... http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi Linda
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Maggie	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:44
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	OMG thank you so much, how an earth did you find all the info i've been at it 3 days mags
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 464 Send Message	Steph	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:44
	When do you think they married?
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 5,899 Send Message	♫ Penny €	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:46
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 5,899 Send Message	Do you know roughly when Ellen died?
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 464 Send Message	Steph	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:47
	When was your dad born?
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Maggie	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:52
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	I have no idea when they married will have to ask my dad next time i speak to him. My dad was born sept18th 1943 i believe he's 65 this month. My grand mother died in 1980 or 1981 Mags
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Maggie	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:56
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Steph, could you please tell me what the mmn Martindale means Mags
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 464 Send Message	Steph	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:56
	Ok got his birth Dec Qtr 1942 St Claire-Johnson Garry M P mmn Sherman District Leicester Vol 7a Page 296
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 464 Send Message	Steph	Report	1 Sep 2007 14:57
	mmn means mothers maiden name
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 464 Send Message	Steph	Report	1 Sep 2007 15:01
	was your father the oldest child?
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Maggie	Report	1 Sep 2007 15:03
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Yes he was Steph, Mags
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Maggie	Report	1 Sep 2007 15:04
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Could you tell me where you are finding this info as it boggles me
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 464 Send Message	Steph	Report	1 Sep 2007 15:05
	I'm looking on findmypast. Can I ask as there is such a large age diff was he married before?
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 5,899 Send Message	♫ Penny €	Report	1 Sep 2007 15:05
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 5,899 Send Message	Hi His death was on Ancestry
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Maggie	Report	1 Sep 2007 15:08
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Strange penny cos i've been looking all this morning trying to find him in some way on ancestry. I believe my grandfather was married before steph
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 464 Send Message	Steph	Report	1 Sep 2007 15:09
	OK I found this birth Sept Qtr 1938 Derrick M R St Claire-Johnson mmn Britt-Ray District Leicester Vol 7a Page 436 So far I can't find any marriages
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Maggie	Report	1 Sep 2007 15:11
Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 37 Send Message	Does anyone know how i can find birth records for gibralta thats the only way i think i'll find his birth Mags

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