Genealogy Chat

Hi All
Being a bit of a novice at all this I think I need some help in trying to figure out who is who on one section of my tree - If you can offer any guidance or point me in the right direction I would be really grateful.
Ok where to begin.....
My GreatGrandmothers parents are shown on her bc as Thomas & Rebecca Beasley (nee Taylor) on the 1901 census they are shown as married living with their daughter Matilda (My GGM) and the age difference between them is about 30 Years! on the 1891 the census shows something different, they are living at the same address but Rebecca is shown as Rebecca Beasley, Single and the heads Sister in Law. The head is shown as Thomas Elliot....
I'm trying to work out their actual names so I can go back further in my tree as without this I don't know where to go??
I cannot trace any marriage between them but I did find a marriage of Thomas Elliot to Betsy Beasley in about 1854 so thought maybe Betsy and Rebecca where related but the age gap between them is too great to make them sisters???

Sorry, I've waffled on but this has been bugging me for weeks and I now cant sleep at nights for trying to work it all out!
Thanks for reading.
Kim

Kim

Hope you don't mind......posting 1901 for ref

Name: Matilda Beasley
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Female
Where born: Limehouse, London, England

Civil Parish: Limehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 302
Household Members: Name Age
Matilda Beasley 9
Rebecca Beasley 43 b. Stewkley, Bucks
Thomas Beasley 66 b. Stewkley, Bucks


And 1891.........

Name: Rebecca Beasley
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Limehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Beasley 8/12 b. Middlesex........***
Minnie Beasley 15 b. Bucks.....single
Rebecca Beasley 32 b. Bucks...single
Thomas Elliott 56 b. Bucks....widower
Sybil Taylor 8 Visitor

*** No relationship listed.............

Reg

Ofcourse not Reggie - Thankyou

This looks like Thomas Beasley in 1891. It says he is married but he's on his own:-

Name: Thomas Bearley
[Thomas Beasley]
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Stewkley
Ecclesiastical parish: Stewkley
Town: Stewkley
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Thomas Bearley 56

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1148; Folio 166; Page 2;

Kath. x

Surely Thomas Elliot's wife would have been a Taylor, not a Beasley!

I think that in 1891 Rebecca Beasley is mistranscribed as "single" and is probably married to Thomas Beasley who is back in the place where he was born. They both seem to have occupations to do with laundering and washing.

Rebecca could be the sister of Thomas Elliott's late wife - there isn't too much age difference. I have siblings with 25 years between them. My own eldest sister is 20 years older than my youngest brother.

Kath. x

The marriage of Beasley/Elliot was found before I had Matilda's BC showing Taylor.

The 1891 census I refer to mentioning the Thomas Elliot I really think is the same Thomas (age and address etc are all too much of a coincidence)
Sorry Reggie or someone else could you add the 1891 census info if you dont mind, I dont know how to do all that technical stuff!

There is also a Sybil Taylor on the 1891 census.

Kim

I put the 1891 below the 1901...........

'Thomas Bearley's' occupation on the 1891 is 'Hawker'

Reg

Kath - I thought that could be possible too so tried to find a match or link between Betsy and Rebecca (Taylor & Beasley) but I wasn't sure how to do it properly.
I searched the family names for Buckinghamshire but I couldn't find the families having a daughter Betsy then later a Rebecca.

so you did - sorry Reggie and Thank you

Maybe his name was Thomas Elliott Beasley and the enumerator thought his middle name was his surname. However, it does actually describe Elliott as a widower on the census.

Have you looked for a death of Thomas Elliott?

Perhaps the house they were in actually belonged to Thomas Elliott and when he died Thomas and Rebecca Beasley moved in (which is why the same address comes up on both census).

I am only trying to give ideas fo you to think about, as there is a Thomas Beasley on the 1891 census from the right birthplace and born the right time.

Kath. x

This may cause more problems than it solves.............1861

Name: Sarah Rebecca Beasley
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathan
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Stewkley
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 19f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Beasley 10
Bettsy Beasley 8
Eliza Beasley 40
George Beasley 5
Henry Beasley 13
Jonathan Beasley 37
Sarah Rebecca Beasley 2

This is the only result for Rebecca born Stewkley c1859...........

Same family in 1871

Name: Rebecca Beasley
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathan
Gender: Female
Where born: Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Stewkley
Town: Stewkley
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Beasley 20
Betsey Beasley 18
George Beasley 15
Jonathan Beasley 47
Rebecca Beasley 12


Reg

Surely Betsy Beasley would have been Thomas Beasley's sister and not Rebecca's sister. This would still make Rebecca the sister in law of Thomas Elliott.

Kath. x

Looks like Thomas was married before

1861

Name: Thomas Beasley
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Stewkley
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View Image

Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 19f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Beasley 2
Mary Beasley 24
Thomas Beasley 26

1851

Name: Thomas Baisley
[Thomas Beasley]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Male
Where born: Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Stewkley
Ecclesiastical parish: North East
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image

Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 9a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Eadward Baisley 6
John Baisley 50
John Baisley 9
Joseph Baisley 13
Mary Ann Baisley 3
Rebecca Baisley 47
Thomas Baisley 15

All are possibilities I shall look into - Thank you.

I haven't searched for Thomas Elliotts death, thanks for that.

The Minnie Beasley that is mentioned later married a man called Epps I believe, I spoke to one of her descendants and she seems to think that Rebecca Beasley was her mother.... only one way to find that out I guess.

marr reg


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>>> Thomas Beasley 1854 Oct-Nov-Dec Winslow Buckinghamshire
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>>> Mary Quainton 1854 Oct-Nov-Dec Winslow Buckinghamshire
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Joseph Scott 1854 Oct-Nov-Dec Winslow Buckinghamshire
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Elizabeth Smith 1854 Oct-Nov-Dec Winslow Buckinghamshire

You also need to bear in mind that in those days "sister-in-law" could also mean "step-sister".

Kath. x

The Thomas & Mary Beasley is a different family (I think!) They are shown on all census upto 1901 so surely that cant be the same guy ?

Can anyone find a Rebecca Taylor born that time in that area?

Oh I didn't know that Kath, hmmm that could be another possibility I guess.