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Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 30 Aug 2007 14:26

Is this your William in 1851....he is a potter

Name: William Proctor
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Audley, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton
Ecclesiastical parish: Tunstall
Town: Tunstall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:Lime Street

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub-registration district: Wolstanton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
Comeniah Proctor 8 *
Enoch Proctor 12
Joseph Proctor 8
Mary Ann Proctor 16
Sarah Proctor 43
William Proctor 44
William Proctor 18

* freebmd shows birth of Jemima and Joseph on the same page.


Gwyn

GillfromStaffs

GillfromStaffs Report 30 Aug 2007 14:31

Gwyn
My William is in Duke st Fenton!!

GillfromStaffs

GillfromStaffs Report 30 Aug 2007 14:34

just having a sandwich 5mins

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 30 Aug 2007 14:40

So we have 2 William Proctors b. Audley in 1851 census
1 is a blacksmith and the other is a potter.

Could you have got the death cert. of the 'other' William and not your ancestor?

Gwyn

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 30 Aug 2007 14:48

Even more muddled now!

The William and Sarah whose details in 1851 are above...are still alive in 1861 so the death cert. can't be him.


Gwyn

GillfromStaffs

GillfromStaffs Report 30 Aug 2007 14:49

Gwyn, they are mistranscibed on 1861 as Rocher.
1851
William Procter
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Audley, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Fenton Christchurch
Town: Fenton Culvert
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Fenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Procter 6
Francis Procter 18
Joseph Procter 3
Rachael Procter 22
Samuel Procter 30
William Procter 50
William Procter 8


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GillfromStaffs

GillfromStaffs Report 30 Aug 2007 14:58

I have searched BMD from June qrt 1851 to March qrt 1861 for a William Proctor(er) and only found the one in 1852 and it's the right place, but why weren't one of his children presant at death??? He's a Blacksmith on 1841 and 1851 and yet a year later when he dies he's a Potter. If he had contracted asthma as a Blacksmith he would not have become a Potter iam sure,but then who knows there were know health & safty rules then !!!

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 30 Aug 2007 15:06

It doesn't add up, ..does it?

The William Dean presence makes me think that the death is for the Willam the potter who married Ann DEAN.

but your ancestors seem to link to the blacksmith marriage....and indeed why would a blacksmith ( 1851) suddenly die as a potter the following year.

Sorry I can't think straight now...I will mull over this though.

Could you check burial records to see who was buried with the 1852 death William?
Maybe that will identify whether it was your ancestors wife.
Gwyn

GillfromStaffs

GillfromStaffs Report 30 Aug 2007 15:13

Gwyn there is a small connection between William Dean age 15 and William Proctor. William Deans father William Dean was also born in Audley.

GillfromStaffs

GillfromStaffs Report 30 Aug 2007 15:16

Thank's gwyn I really appricate all your efforts on my behalf. Go lie down in a darkened room now!!! lol Gill

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 30 Aug 2007 16:45

Is it possible that William is missing from the 1861 census and is one of the William Procters who dies in 1864?

GillfromStaffs

GillfromStaffs Report 30 Aug 2007 17:00

Hi Andy
thank's for your reply, yes it is possible,but I would have find something to use as a checking point, as his wife is deceased by that time I might have the same problem as I have now, but I will take a look at them. Thank's Gill