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Heather

Heather Report 26 Aug 2007 20:58

The marriage was on freebmd - its the one I put on the previous page here but there are a number of Roberts marrying Hannahs - you need to verify this is the correct marriage by buying one of the childrens birth certs.

Cumbrian Caz~**~

Cumbrian Caz~**~ Report 26 Aug 2007 20:59

Hi Germaine, what is that site? where were yours thrown out from?

Something odd me thinks! I cant get him on other censi, including IOM 1841

Caz x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Aug 2007 21:00

Caz,

The surname distribution map is only for 1881.

Kath. x

Cumbrian Caz~**~

Cumbrian Caz~**~ Report 26 Aug 2007 21:00

Will do heather, you mean there were other Robert Redheads marrying Hannahs in Workington?

Im confused lol!

Caz x

Germaine

Germaine Report 26 Aug 2007 21:03

I have been told that they went to Whitehaven from IOM after being thrown out for poaching . Don't know how true not found any evidence. My Lot (Leadbetter) came from Fleetwood before that Southport.
Hey it is a great site got some transcrips from parish reg etc. Very good.
Forget off hand were they were. IOM but not sure of town Douglas I thik.
Fishermen. Men missing in 1901 census.
Wife and younger children in Whitehaven.

Germaine
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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Aug 2007 21:04

1881 census

Name: Robt. Redhead
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Colby Abbey, Isle of Man, Isle of Man

Civil Parish: Arlecdon
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: Chapel Row
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information.
Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub-registration district: Harrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Redhead 43 b. Egremont
James Redhead 19 b. Egremont
Jane Redhead 15 b. Egremont
Robt. Redhead 62
Tom Redhead 8 b. Camerton

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Aug 2007 21:07

From the IGI

Redhead, British Isles
Father: Robert , Mother: Hannah
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C011802
)
1. JAMES REDHEAD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 JUL 1861 Egremont, Cumberland, England

2. WILLIAM REDHEAD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 JUN 1856 Egremont, Cumberland, England

3. JANE REDHEAD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 DEC 1865 Egremont, Cumberland, England

From freebmd............

Name: James Redhead
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Whitehaven
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 564

OR

Name: William Redhead
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Whitehaven
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 504




Reg

Germaine

Germaine Report 26 Aug 2007 21:07


Have yo seen this one Caz.
Don't forget they rounded up and down ages in 1841.

Germaine
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Robt Redhead
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Man, Isle of Man

Civil Parish: Arbory
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man

Street address: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Isle of Man
Sub-registration district: Isle of Man

Germaine

Germaine Report 26 Aug 2007 21:12

I wonder.??
Germaine
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1. ROBT REDHEAD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 MAR 1815 Santon, Isle Of Man, England

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 MAR 1815 Santon, Isle Of Man, England

:
Parents:
Father: ROBT REDHEAD Family
Mother: JANE CUBBIN

From what I have found Santon is about 7 miles off Arbory I think that came under Colby.
Appologies if wrong.
Colby Level Station, Isle of Man - the local area and attractions - at pagemost.com. ... Santon Head Land Feature around 7 miles away. ...

Germaine

Germaine Report 26 Aug 2007 21:30

The one in the IOM i found in 1841 this is him in 1851.
I can't find himon census for 1861. So could be???
Germaine
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1851 Isle of Man Census
about Robert Redhead
Name: Robert Redhead
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Where born: Arbory, Isle of Man, Isle of Man
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male

Civil Parish or Township: Arbory
County/Island: Isle of Man
Country: Isle of Man

Street address:
Condition as to marriage:
Occupation:
Disability:

Registration district: Isle of Man
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Crellin 26
Margret Fisher 76
Jane Kelly 17
Daniel McNey 23
Henry Moore 9
Margret Qualbrough 20
Robert Redhead 37


Cumbrian Caz~**~

Cumbrian Caz~**~ Report 26 Aug 2007 22:00

Thanks so much!!!

Just going to look at all of this!!


Caz x

mgnv

mgnv Report 28 Aug 2007 22:06

Dear Caz,

Here's an IOM family that doesn't fit exactly:

Results for: Robert Redhead, Isle of Man, British Isles
Spouse: Jane Cubbon
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: m038181

International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 1
Select records to download - (50 maximum)
1. ROBT. REDHEAD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 21 APR 1814 Arbory, Isle Of Man, England

Results for: Isle of Man, British Isles
Father: Robert Redhead, Mother: Jane Cubbon
Exact Spelling: Off

International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 4
Select records to download - (50 maximum)
1. ROBT REDHEAD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 MAR 1815 Santon, Isle Of Man, England

2. HENRY REDHEAD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 19 MAR 1820 Arbory, Isle Of Man, England

3. ELIZABETH REDHEAD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 JUN 1816 Arbory, Isle Of Man, England

4. ANN REDHEAD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 FEB 1818 Arbory, Isle Of Man, England

[These are all OPR extracts - Redhead @ Arbory had 15 OPR births (C038181) and 6 OPR marriages]

In 1881: Robt. REDHEAD a=62 b. place = Colby Abbey (in Arborey parish) IOM; Hannah REDHEAD a=43.

It's feasible that this is your Robert's family, even though the b date/place are wrong. Might he lie about his age - I could see that when there's a 41 y old guy marrying an 18 y old, and maybe he never got it sorted. I don't see him getting his birth place of IOM wrong, but I could see him getting the parish wrong. His parents got married in Arborey, and all his sibs were later born in Arborey, so he might have thought he was born there too. Anyway, it all seems feasible to me, but that's a long way short of being satisfactory. Robt + Hannah's marr cert should show the names and occupations of the couple's fathers, and give two witnesses, who are liable to be rellies. If Robt's dad isn't Robert, that would settle this conjecture.

Just to add a couple of minor corrections to others' earlier statements:
in 1841 census ages of adults (15+) were supposed to be rounded down to a multiple of 5;
the UCL map shows 3 Redhead clusters: Lincoln, Tyneside, and Lancashire.

Regards - Malcolm