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Please could anybody help me find the birth details of my nan Mary Ann Bright. Her marriage cert gives her DoB circa 1893. Her father was George. She lived in London when she married. I'm not a member of ancestry and I am totally stuck !!!

What is her father's occupation on the marriage certificate? It might help locating her on the 1901 census.
Margaret

Ah, well ! It just says 'deceased' !

Oh, no it doesn't. He was a 'builders labourer !

Hi Patricia, this any good?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Bright Mary Ann Blean 2a 851

This is the only Mary Ann Bright birth I can find in 1893, but you would need to check the census first to see if you can find the family to see where they were living. This one is registered in Kent:-

Mary Ann Bright
Sept. qtr. 1893, Blean, 2a, 851

Kath. x

Looks good. What district ?(Not been doing this too long)

Well, that's no help, is it?
The closest one that I can see on the 1901 census is Mary Bright, no middle name but she was born 1891. Her father is George, a coffeehouse proprietor.
No idea if that might be her, not sure what to suggest.
Margaret

Sorry, with you now. Was reading her name as Mary Ann Brean Bright ! Thank you

The district id Blean Patricia

Births Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Bright Mary Ann Blean 2a 851


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Margaret, I had seen that in 1901 census but, of course DoB does not tally. Could either be wrong ? Any ideas. I dont know where she was born so I will prob get the birth cert above. But how will I know whether it is actually her or not ? What about her death cert ? She died Mary Ann Soilleux c 1972. That would clarify her DoB wouldnt it ?

You can check what places Blean covers here:-

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/blean.html

It might help you decide if it's the right one.

Kath. x

You could order the birth certificate and give the father's name as George as a checking point, so you don't get the certificate if the father's name is something else.

Dates of birth on death certificates are only as accurate as the informant's memory.

People also lied about their age on marriage certificates. How old did she say she was? Sometimes people said that their father was deceased if they didn't have parental consent and they were under 21.

Kath. x

Thanks all. I will do that. Have looked at area Blean covers. V.interesting, is where we used to go on holiday as children ! Could it be that my mum had been taken there by her mum Mary Ann ?!?

Quite possibly, Patricia.

Kath. x

Wow ! That bit about lying about father being deceased ! Her age on cert is 22 but if that census entry is her she would only be about 18 !

When was the marriage - because you said that her age on there would make her date of birth 1893?

Kath. x

Heres her death registration

June qtr 1972

Mary Ann Soilleux d.o.b 5th june 1897
Lewisham 5d 532

Shirley

Jim,

Mary Ann's father was George on her marriage certificate.

Kath. x

There is no Mary Ann Bright registered in the middle two quarters on 1897. There is one Mary Bright (no middle name) registered in the June qtr. in Lewisham.

Kath. x