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Related To Royalty
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Katie | Report | 25 Nov 2003 21:51 |
They say that a large percentage of the UK population are distantly related to royalty - so have any of you come up with such exciting ancestors? Be they illigitimate or legal! -Kat |
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Paul | Report | 25 Nov 2003 23:51 |
I am going to be hung, drawn, and quartered for this I think, and my remains scattered to the four corners of the earth, but this is how bits of information come about. It was said to me, many years ago, that all genuine Parr family members are related to the wife of Henry VIII, Catherine Parr, reputedly buried in the grounds of Kendal Castle Paul (who is about to leave for a distant place to escape the return fire) |
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Paul | Report | 25 Nov 2003 23:53 |
My grandmother (mother's side) was a Parr, and no it wasn't her who told me. Paul |
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Montmorency | Report | 26 Nov 2003 00:38 |
Partly a question of wording. "Related to royalty" is a very weak claim if it allows for chains of marriages. "Descended from royalty" would be a lot harder to believe. The Parr claim is stronger, but it still only says that the name Parr had a single point of origin. If it did, then all the Parrs are related, and if it didn't, they aren't. Not unlikely, many surnames did have single points of origin. It doesn't mean that your Parr ancestors in Tudor times would have been recognised relatives of Catherine, they could have been umpteenth cousins with no traceable link |
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Bob | Report | 26 Nov 2003 00:40 |
Surely any decendants of Catherine would be Seymores? |
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We're all crazy now | Report | 26 Nov 2003 10:26 |
I didn´t think that Catherine Parr or Seymore had any children even though she was married 4 times. I´m not absolutely sure ´cos I´m at work at present and cannot look it up in a book that I have at home. Jeannie |
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Anna | Report | 26 Nov 2003 10:41 |
Catherine Parr(Seymour)died in childbirth.Her daughter was called Mary(born aug 30 1548) Her father was Thomas Seymour,Catherines 4th husband Anna |
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Julie | Report | 26 Nov 2003 10:53 |
i've got a Parr in my tree, maybe I'm the royal link! The rest of you are imposters to my regal crown! now when can i move into the palace!!!! sorry, just fancied having a bit of fun!!!! julie T:) |
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Gary | Report | 26 Nov 2003 11:17 |
Catherine Parr married four times: 1. John Nevill 3rd Baron Latimer he died in 1542 leaving no issue by Catherine who was his second wife. He had two children by his first wife. 2. Edward Borough, 2nd Baron Borough. Do not know if there was any issue from this marriage. 3. Henry VIII Kng of England he died 1547 leaving no issue by Catherine. 4. Thomas Seymour 1st Baron Seymour of Sudeley he died without living issue. Therefore does not look like anyone could be descended. Any Parrs would have to be connected to her father Sir Thomas Parr of Kendal. Gary I can bore on medieval and tudor history as well! |
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Sandra | Report | 26 Nov 2003 16:31 |
Hey, Paul, C/Katherine Parr is actually buried in the grounds of Sudeley Castle, just north of Cheltenham in Gloucestershire. There is also reputed to be a descendant of the royal family living in Berkeley in Gloucestershire, apparently Edward VII left behind more than his signature in the visitors book of Berkeley Castle. |
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Montmorency | Report | 26 Nov 2003 16:57 |
I expect Eddie's baby knows who he is though Katrina's original question was about finding royals by genealogy. My feeling is, they're all lurking behind the brick walls -- if they were traceable, we'd already know |
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Michelle | Report | 26 Nov 2003 17:03 |
Hi According to my mother, her grandmother had her family tree profesionally researched in London (whatever that means) many years ago. There is supposed to be a connection to Ann Bolyn. Im a bit doubtful but I supose anything is possible. Unfortunaly I'm not sure which line it went down and as I have only gone back as the mid 1800 on my mothers side, I think it will be a long time before I find out one way or another. Michelle |
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Paul | Report | 26 Nov 2003 18:34 |
See, I said it would bring out bits of information!!! Julie (Tebb) - the first names Catherine and Louise/Louisa don't come in to your Parr line by any chance?? Paul |
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susie manterfield(high wycombe) | Report | 26 Nov 2003 18:45 |
i must be related to king george,known as the mad king.he had an illness called porphyria along with mary queen of scots.my mum,brother and other members of my family also have this illness.it is hereditary. so i'll be moving into the castle soon i hope!!...lol the reason its in my family is probably because a servant from downstairs had a bit of hanky panky...lol susie |
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Katie | Report | 26 Nov 2003 19:04 |
(Paul - how'd you fancy the guillotine instead of quartering?!) Re: Catherine Parr: Yes, I've heard the same thing. Many people say that the Parr families are all connected to Catherine. There was a Parr family in Portsmouth (Wymering)and they claim such heritage I believe. They owned Wymering Manor for a while (which passed through royal hands many times in the early years). It is recorded as early as 1084 when it was given to William Maldwith by the current King. Robin is quite right, however. Such claims must be nearly impossible to prove - moreso for those descended rather than related through numerous marriages. Prince William doesn't know how lucky he is - we were all taught his family tree at school! he he he. All very interesting though. -Kat |
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Paul | Report | 26 Nov 2003 19:14 |
Kat, At least I would be in less pieces :-)) Paul |
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Katie | Report | 27 Nov 2003 20:48 |
That depends on how many times I miss...! ;0P -Kat |
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Debi Coone | Report | 27 Nov 2003 20:57 |
My husband has a document written by his 4xg aunt detailing that 5xg grandmother LENA ASHWELL was the paramour ( mistress ) of George iv and thus his 4xg grandmother was the love child of this affair. Having a hard time proofing it though as we can't trace some of the family named!! |
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Katie | Report | 27 Nov 2003 23:12 |
I wouldn't trace it if I were you Deborah! Soon as hubby knows he has royal blood he'll have you waiting on him hand-and-foot! Before you know it, you'll be squeesing his toothpaste onto the brush every morning! he he he Good Luck! -Kat |
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Bob | Report | 28 Nov 2003 00:32 |
And you'll have to buy some tupperware!!! |