Genealogy Chat

Genfindit found my Irish gt grandparents marriage which I though I would NEVER find. Only trouble is that I can't read it !! aghhhh see below

it looks like marriage solomised at 'lulfan'??? in the parish of sham Kill in the c of Armagh. ??? George McKInley from Bradford father 'Jeane'??? feane?? McKinley (any irish names similar to this ???) Elizabeth Irwin from Lusgan Lusgan Lusfan???? Goodness knows what the wife's father's occupation is. Looks like himan Church of Ireland try lisima (what is try lisima???) AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH At least I have a date now I guess. december 31st 1884 Any super slueths willing to take a guess??? thanks

Any chance of it being Lurgan which is in Co. Armagh? Shankill is a parish in that district. Jack

Parish might be shankhill

Is the name possibly Sean?

yep...Lurgan & Shankill look good ! Thanks don't think it's sean because the first letter is not the same as the s in Shankill. Could be an f fiane??? maybe it's Isaac

You may find the following site helpful: http://lurganancestry.net/introduction.asp then if you need a fee based search, this page http://lurganancestry.net/researchdept/civilrequest.html It has some very good info on the Lurgan area for family tree research as well as a fee based search service and a general forum.

thanks Margaret...I'll go & have a peek I am soo happy to find this marriage !! woohooooooo

No problem, meant to say, type 'McKinley' in their search facility and it will also list any free to view records they have with that name....there are a few as I have had a quick look for you.

Karen I would be interested to know whether you can search for free on the site you mentioned. Thanks Lyn

At that time in Ireland (ie when he was born), a man would not be given a 'Celtic' name unless his family wanted to make a political point. George Mc Kinley from Bradford does not sound the type. I would look for a distinctly 'English' name that fitted, not an 'Irish' one.

I don't understand....is George an unusual Irish name? He was definitely born in Ireland according to the 1891 & 1901 census. They moved to Bradford then Leeds after they married.

Do you think he could have changed his name sos not to draw attention to being a 'Paddy'? Hey the Irish one - not Fynne i suppose?

his name is george on the 1891 & 1901 census. I was wondering if it was not his real name because I couldn't any trace if him, but now I have his marriage cert, I know he really did exist.

Was it bad to be Irish if you lived in England??? It could be Finne....is that a real name??? There is no 'y'

I just googled Irish names and yes Finn is a male Irish name. Yes, there was quite a lot of ill feeling between the English and Irish, pariticularly those who were Roman Catholics.

A lot of the Irish came over with nothing, especialy during the gt famine. Imagine if now thousands of people came over here, without a penny to their names, filthy dirty, some ill with the fever and were willing to work for pennies compared to what their English contempories worked for? An awful lot of English looked on the Irish as the dregs of society.

I do not know how its spelt but phaneticly its FEEAN This is a name I know to be Irish, I think its spelt FIEN or FIAN Some one I knew years back was called it.

Following on from Peter, I did know a girl called Feon (thats how she spelt it) it can rhyme with Leonor phenetically Feean.

My gt grandparents married at a Church of Ireland church......does that mean they were not so hated?? I am really feeling sorry for these rellies......they ended up in the dregs of Leeds apparently, dying a month apart...Elizabeth getting run over by a car in 1935.