Genealogy Chat

Hello, I'll try and make this as clear as possible. Yesterday I got the death certificate of my 3xgt-grandfather Robinson Ayton. He died in 1864 and his age on the certificate is 85, which would mean that he was born in 1779. He was in the army in the 34th Foot, which was also known as the Cumberland Regiment. On the IGI I've found a xtening for a Robinson Hayton in 1786 in Whitehaven Cumberland - despite the different birth years and the H in front of Ayton - can I assume that they are the same person? I know he got married in 1820 in Littlehampton, Sussex - would the parish register tell me where he was born? Thank you, Helen :-)

parish register won't tell you where he was born and as for that big a gap in years - i wouldn't think so

Bon soir! Never assume anything! The age on death cert may be wrong as it is just a guess quite often, by whoever informed his death. The less close the informant, the less likely the info is to be accurate - though 7 years is a bit of a difference. If it had been one or two I would have been more convinced. His parish marriage entry will not tell you where he was born :-(. Do you have any idea where he was in 1841 - if you could find his census entry that would give his date and place of birth. Did he have any siblings? nell

Have you tried searching the National Archives for his military records? I found lots of info on some of mine from their army records, including place of birth, description, medical history, where posted etc. I did a quick search of the catalogue for you and this came up. Could it be him, as it references the navy not army? Robinson Ayton, Surgeon's Mate. Grappler, Grouville Bay, 26 August 1798 Normal Closure before FOI Act: 30 years Open Document, Open Description Held by The National Archives, Kew Item details: PC 1/118B/109 Sarah

Bonsoir to you too Nell! :-) He died in Portchester, Fareham district, Hampshire and I suppose if he was no longer in the army he might have already been there in 1841. Otherwise I think the 34th Foot moved around a lot! I don't have any information about siblings either - I think he may be my brick wall! Helenxx

Hi Helen he could be one and the same man and he may have been baptised 10yrs after he was born i have seen children baptised at various ages. The parish marriage record normaly says of this parish or not of this parish but you never know, it may be worth having a look. On the IGI it says fathers name only Henry any idea of his mothers name or any other siblings he had. Also have you found him on the 1841 1851 & 1861. Regards Colette xxx

Thank you Sarah! That's him! On the death certificate it says 'Late Surgeon 34th Foot'. To view these records I'd have to go to Kew would I?

This site tells you where the 34th foot was posted 1702-1959. www*regiments*org/deploy/uk/reg-inf/034-1*htm Replace * with . Also on FHO site, Hampshire burial index: Name :Robinson Parsons Ayton buried 23 Mar 1837 age 8 Parish :North Stoneham Unusual name: Poss relative? Sarah (again!) You can order some stuff online from Kew, details on the website!

I've just had a look at the National Archives site and so have answered my own question! Shall have to beg another day of childcare from my parents during the summer holidays when I'm over. The FOH site? I don't know that one - but it looks like he could be a son and perhaps Parsons is Robinson's wife's maiden name - now I really am getting carried away! Thank you Sarah this is fantastic! I'll just go off and see where the 34th Foot were in 1829. Helen:-))

Its great when you get somewhere isn't it?! www*familyhistoryonline*net/login/login*html Whats his wifes name? Can you not order those things online? Sarah

Hello me again, I forgot to say I haven't looked at the 1841 census, or any other for that matter, because I don't know how to get hold of them over here. Helenxx

His wife's name was Priscilla Martin Ayton. I found the marriage on the IGI and it doesn't give her maiden name, but I know she is the Mother from my 2xgrt-grandmother's birth details and also the repetition of the names in the children. By order 'those things online' - do you mean the army records? I'll go back and have a look :-) Helenxx

Helen I would try a post on the Records Office Board to see if anyone has 1861 for Hampshire. If you give death cert details there may be someone who can help.

Thank you everyone for your help - I've got lots to keep me busy now :-) Helenxx

Name: Ayton, Priscilla Martin Record Type: Deaths Quarter: March Year: 1864 District: Fareham County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 373 Looks like the 1861 is a good bet for you! Yep, I meant the war office docs and ordering online... Good luck with it all, Sarah

Hi Helen, I haven't read all this thread yet, just about to with interest, cos we've an Ayton in our tree and we are in Sussex! Josie

Maybe someone will disagree with me but I've never seen a marriage on the IGI where the brides maiden name isn't given. If you check out Ayton births in Hampshire on the IGI there are quite a few especially in the Brighton area, so not too far from Littlehampton. I think it's possible Priscilla was born an Ayton, married an Ayton and died an Ayton.

Woops, a very big W O O O O O P S . My Ayton was a first name, so sorry. enjoyed reading this read anycase. Josie

Do a Google '34th Foot' - loads of pages.

I've found marriages on the IGI minus the brides maiden name. Given the unusual name of Priscilla 'Martin' Ayton, isn't it poss her maiden name was Martin?? Just an idea.... Sarah