Genealogy Chat

Amazing guys, I didnt expect any response to this one - though always hopeful - but you have once again come up with the goods. Certainly sounds a good bet as my ancestors at the moment.

And have also managed to find it on Booths poverty map Easy once you know a nearby place LOL http://booth.lse.ac.uk/cgi-bin/do.pl?sub=view_booth_only&b.l=2&b.d.l=2&b.p.x=21442&b.p.y=9480&b.p.w=500&b.p.h=309&b.p.l=1&b.p.p.l=0&b.t.w=128&b.t.h=96&b.move.left.x=1&b.move.left.y=1 Don't know if that will work??? Shelli

Thats the one Stephen Humphries recommended! I will have a quick google - thanks Brenda. I MUST GET ON WITH WORK - someone slap me please. OH and its hubby's birthday and I havent even got a card yet (nor one from youngest son to hubby).

Heather no i don't have any leaflet i ahve a web page. Will try and explain how to see it..... Go to http://www.motco(.)com/map/ Click on London and suburbs 1862 When it's loaded ther should be a seerate menu on the left click on road and street index ( takes a wee while to load) Then scroll down to Rotherhithe street (16, 19) NOT (17,18) as this is a another part of Rotherhithe Street. A portion of the map will then appear on the right part of the screen, you have to scroll left to right and and up and down to view the whole thing. But in your case just scroll left to right slightly and you'll see Pitchers point just where you said it was between Princes Dock and King and Queen dock. let me know if you can follow my instructions? Shelli xx

Did you see the online booklet - a walk by Stuart Rankin? 62 pages, complete with illustrations? If not, I'll send the address when I get home.

Oh thats great Shelli. The archvist mentioned its in a pamphlet called Shipbuilding in Rotherhithe I think. Perhaps you have that.

Heather I actually have it on a map of 1862

Really Brenda, what in A2A? Blimey, how did they manage to be in 2 courts on the same day? Or was it the date of the offence and they got tried in two different areas? Sounds like my lot! Actually, thats interesting, cos William though born in Rotherhithe married in Middx.then lived in Rotherhithe. I do hope it connects up as dad would love to hear all this. And who knows, I could be a multi millionairess if they never sold their yard! The second time they were impeding by Tower Bridge by the looks of it! When we were little, we had never been to the seaside (ah, everyone) and mum used to take us down to Tower Bridge when the tide was out with a pic nic. We would sit on the shingle with our sandwiches and thought for years that was being at the seaside!

By the the way, Heather, did you check all of the catalogue for the Dixons? They were bad boys twice and had a different address second time around.

The Southwark Archivist is a lovely chap. I wrote months ago asking any info about my gran. He emailed back immediately saying that he had just written a book about Bermondsey and Rotherhithe and my gran was in two pics in it. When he sent me a copy it also had brill photos of all the streets my mum and dad had lived in and where I was born and one photo had a crowd of people, each of whom my dad could identify and name. It was lovely!

....fantastic....and I suppose, being a library, the info came free and gratis??!! I love librarians!! Sarah

Hi Brenda and everyone - thought you may be interested to know (?) that the lovely Southwark Library Archivist has sent me the following: Pitchers Point was between Princes Dock and King and Queen Dock, downstream of the entrance to the Surrey Canal. Just across Rotherhithe Street from it was the alleyway called Mistaers Buildings, and Globe Pond was the largest feature in the hinterland. King and Queen Stairs were nearby. Stuart Rankin's booklet on the general history of shipbuilding at Rotherhithe, has a map that shows Pitchers Point. He also suggested that the rates books at the library may be able to help me further. Arent they wonderful.

Many thanks guys, am awaiting a mail back from docklands ancestors swho reckon they know a man who will know! Meanwhile have phoned 82 year old cousin (my dad was youngest of 14 so my cousins are all called uncle) and he said something about Spillers yard. So Im going to have a further google.

Sorry no luck. Tried googling and got Pitchers Yard which seems to have a connection with Thomas Pitcher or Pitchers of Northfleet who seem to have been ship builders. Might be worth a browse.

Hi Heather, I've looked in my Booth's notebook that covers Rotherhithe but no mention of Pitchers Point. Does mention Rotherhithe Street though. Have you googled Charles Booth's maps? I will pop off and have a look for you. Also will speak to mum later as she was brought up in Rotherhithe, albeit in the war.

Well, I'm in the same boat as you, Heather!! (At Pitcher Point?? Ha!) We are awaiting Brenda'a explanation of EXACTLY what sites she was looking at???? (Not sure I wish to know!) Sarah

I still dont know what that means Sarah? I thought I had lived a full and broad minded life, but I surely DO NOT want to know what else it could mean!!! Update: No I actually saw the site addresses when I was googling, like Brenda, they were obviously not the sort of thing ladies would look at, but still cant understand the connection to Pitchers Point!

lol Heather - don't show dad any of the other stuff!! Sarah

Thanks Sarah, I will have a look (hope its to do with the Thames and not the other things I kept getting up in my googling!) Its a wonderful site and what a beautiful painting? Do you know you can order prints of any of the paintings on there? That would be great for a pressie for dad. Thats brilliant Sarah (I actually looked through that site with a search on Pitchers Point!!). Woo hoo, sounds like it was on Rotherhithe Street then! Ive tried googling Quallets, keep getting wallets! Will check later today, old man getting a bit peeved about time Im spending on here!

Found this: http://www.nmm(.)ac.uk/mag/pages/mnuExplore/PaintingDetail.cfm?ID=BHC1868 see line three of the description. maybe if you google Quallet's??? Sarah