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ideas on how a child born out of wedlock in early

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Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 19 Jul 2005 09:48

Bow I don't think any birth certificates actually state the child's surname, do they? It's usually assumed, - by seeing the father's name, in my experience.

helenbell

helenbell Report 19 Jul 2005 09:56

Hi Gwynn Mabels Dad was not mentioned on her birth certificate, even though her mum married him a year later!! Love Bow

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 19 Jul 2005 10:03

Hi Bow By then, as now, he would have to have been present at the registration for his name to be included. Perhaps he was busy that day? lol. ( Sorry J.A. for going off-subject )

JALimestonePlains

JALimestonePlains Report 19 Jul 2005 12:18

That is interesting Bow Not a problem going off the topic Gwyneth I have sent for Stanley Allen 1908 If that is a blank will follow the Sarah lead and try for the 1905 Kendrick certificate Crista thanks for your email, much appreciate all you are doing. Bow Bells - found my Smiths in Chelsea. An intersting tip about just a forename on the certificate and no father or mothe?. I have not heard of that before but am a novice, so nothing surprises me! JA

Merry

Merry Report 20 Jul 2005 07:14

I've copied JA's PM to me here: ''Hi Sarah, thanks for looking for me. My mother said when I spoke to her that Elzabeth was also in service in Eastbourne.Elizxabeth was born in 1893.Mother also said that he died 'very young'.'' Hmmm..... Well, the trouble is, wherever she was in service she might have gone somewhere else to have the child. And I wonder how young ''very young'' might be? Do we even know for certain that the baby ws called Stanley both by his mother and by his ''adoptive'' parents? Elizabeth might have had him registered as ''male'' or in another forename? Do we assume he definitely died with the name Kendrick? Mentioning names, you said in the last message: ''An intersting tip about just a forename on the certificate and no father or mother?. I have not heard of that before but am a novice, so nothing surprises me!'' Maybe I missed what you were responding to? but were you talking about a child's surname? When a child's birth is regisitered there is no column on the cert for the child's surname. But there is the mother's surname in the column for her name and also the father's surname too if he was named on the cert. Obviously if the parents are a married couple then both surnames will be the same! The birth reg will be found indexed under the parents surname, if they were married, under the mother's surname if there was no father recorded and under both surnames if the dad is on the cert and his surname differs from that of the child's mother. Hope that helps a bit?? Sarah

JALimestonePlains

JALimestonePlains Report 20 Jul 2005 11:33

Sarah Thanks JA