Genealogy Chat

This morning I received another two wrong death certs and now I'm feeling very cheesed off with all my families. Would some kind soul mind looking for Matilda with fresh eyes.

For Starters, am I tracking the right Matilda as her place of birth changes? Can't find her husband's death either but son Fred married in 1858 and his dad was alive then (alledgedly). I've been through 1837online and can't find a likely death (1871-1881) except the wrong one Dec 1872 aged 63. Could somebody please check 1881 in case I have missed her. 1841 Eastfield street, Limehouse Fredk Wood 40 labourer Y Matilda 35 Y Louisa 10 Y Mary 8 Y Fredk 6 Y Matilda 3 Y Ann 1mth Y 1851 92 Eastfield St, Limehouse Frederic Wood 44 labourer Limehouse Matilda Wood 40 laundress Limehouse Frederic 15 Matilda 13 Elizabeth 10 Joseph 8 George 5 Eliza 2 1861 (transcribed Ward) 2 John St, Limehouse Matilda Wood 51 widow laundress born unreadable Matilda 22 laundress Limehouse Joseph 17 plasterer Limehouse George 14 scholar Limehouse Eliza 11 scholar Limehouse John 9 scholar Limehouse 1871 Knapp Road, Bromley St Leonard Matilda Wood 61 widow greengrocer born Bristol Mary daug unm 37 Middx Joseph 25 labourer Middx Eliza 22 Middx John 20 Middx

Lyla Where is Limehouse??

Limehouse is in the Stepney, Mile End area of London.

I would be eternally grateful for a second opinion on this. The 1841 and 1851 people are definately my family. Do you think the Matilda in 1871 who is suddenly a greengrocer born in Bristol is the same woman? Her son Frederic (my gggrandfather) was a Plasterer living in Poplar in 1871 and her son Joseph is a plasterer in 1861. Can anyone find a badly mistranscribed version of Matilda in 1881? Thanks Lyla

Lyla, hi. your pushing it a bit looking for Matilda on the 1881 census. She was 61 in 1871, that would her 71 in 1881. Even money she wasnt alive in 1881. Sorry but its true. TED.

lyla. matilda age35 in 1841 then only 40 in 1851, 6 years gone somewhere. 1861 51 ok, 1871 61 ok probably 1881 should be 71. The only death I can find for Matilda is 1880 Surrey LONDON age 67. Taking into account the age difference in 1841 and 1851 (6 yrs) could this be her? March qtr 1880 2A 162. TED

Thanks everyone. Just nipped away to watch Hollyoaks and came back to all your replies. I have bought several death certificates before I found her in 1861 so I'm reluctant to buy any more until I'm certain. (I really though I had her with the Dec 1872 cert). I have another relly who remarried at age 60 so it's definately a possiblility. Hmm, which cert to order next? Guess I need to find a Matilda Taylor or Austin in 1881 to see if her age fits. Thanks Lyla

It certainly seems like the right lot doesnt it especially with Mary absent in two census but turning up right age again in 71. I guess little Ann died between census. I wouldnt worry about the age difference in the 1841/51 as I have a Mary Ann aged 8 in 41, 12 in 51 and 2 years later aged 20 when she married - and definitely the right girl. What a dilemma.

Lyla, the one shown born Bristol is here in 1861 :Or it looks like it anyway? Albert Wood abt 1851 Bath, Somerset, England Son Walcot Somerset John Wood abt 1809 Bath Head Walcot Somerset Matilda Wood abt 1811 Clifton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Walcot Somerset Matilda Wood abt 1848 Bath, Somerset, England Daughter Walcot Somerset

Well I have found a Lucy married to a Richard Austin and a possible Matilda wrong age with an Alfred Taylor so I think I have to rule out those particular marriages for now:( Do you think the Matilda in 1871 is the right one? I suppose I could try and track her daughters and see if she is listed under one of their married names? Why couldn't she die in Poplar/Limehouse? Guess I'll have to carry on working my way through the 1837online list then as and when funds permit it:(

Heather, thank you. So I do have the wrong Matilda in 1871. It did seem strange that she became a greengrocer all of a sudden! It was just that her childrens ages all seemed to match. So, back to 1861-1871 Matilda deaths, unless anyone can find her on a census?

Lyla, dont take me as gospel, just throwing in more ideas probably wrong. In fact now I look at the names of the kids, I think I am wrong. Do you think it could be a case of the old transcriber looking up a line when he wrote her job and place of birth?

I don't know Heather. I have spent a fortune on wrong certs for this family. The really annoying thing is that in 1861 she is at the bottom of the page and her place of birth is illegible. I don't have access to Ancestry (waiting for 1851!) so I can't go back and look at the 1871 image. Serves me right for not printing it off!

1871 you wish you'd printed off Matilda Sinfield abt 1868 Middlesex, England Visitor Bromley St Leonard London Eliza Wood abt 1849 Middlesex, England Daughter Bromley St Leonard London John Wood abt 1851 Middlesex, England Son Bromley St Leonard London Joseph Wood abt 1846 Middlesex, England Son Bromley St Leonard London Mary Wood abt 1834 Middlesex, England Daughter Bromley St Leonard London Matilda Wood abt 1810 Bristol Head Bromley St Leonard London what do you want looking at on the image? it is in front of me now - deffo sys greengrocer and two of her sons are labourers

Is the Matilda Sinfield the visitor, her married daughter matilda that was about earlier? SCRAP THAT SHE'S ONLY 3! Did she have a daughter elizabeth Ann? SINFIELD, John Daniel 1867 September Marriages Mile End Old Town London Middlesex Wood, Elizabeth Ann 1867 September Marriages Mile End Old Town London Middlesex Record Type: Marriages Quarter: September Year: 1867 District: Mile End Old Town County: London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 1039 (

Lyla Would you like the image for any of the above. I owe you many favours, would like to return one or two ;) Kate

Thanks Jess, I wanted to see if I could possibly have made a mistake and she wasn't in fact a greengrocer from Bristol. Kate, I'd love the image - do you still have my address?

have updated on the reply above ..did she have a daughter Elizabeth Ann?

Sure do. Was it just 1871 you needed or all? Kate :)