Genealogy Chat

Yes, got that and thanks. Gives me a bit more to go on. I will try to get the death cert. and see what it can tell me. Methinks there might be a skeleton or two hidden away here! Ian

Didn't know if you noticed I posted Ralph's death on page one?? (as it was only a little post!!). Don't know where he is in 1901, but as Jess said, Hannah was shown as married, not widowed. Merry

Yes, the Ralph in the 1901 is their son. Drewry Ralph South Shields.10a 785 Birth 4 1873 When I check freebmd, both Annie Drewry and John Robert Wintrip appear, but their names are not on the same page. Both show in South Shields in 1908. Could there be a rabbit away here, or is it just how the records have been transcribed? The pages are 1227 and 1237, volume 10a, 1908. Shuld I read anything into this? Ian

1871 View Record Ralph Drewry abt 1852 Shields, Northumberland, England Lodger Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham View Record James Wilson Oliver abt 1870 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham View Record Mary Oliver abt 1843 Spittal, Northumberland, England Wife Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham View Record Thomas Oliver abt 1838 South Shields, Durham, England Head Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham View Record Thos William Oliver abt 1869 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham View Record William John Oliver abt 1867 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham View Record Robert Wilson abt 1831 Spittal, Northumberland, England Lodger Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham View Record Robert Wilson abt 1865 Shields, Durham, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow

THINK i have 1901- maybe/maybe not unless son and head have been transposed or something,Hannah is married (not widowed) View Record Annie Drewry abt 1883 Hebburn, Durham, England Daughter Hebburn Durham View Record George Drewry abt 1888 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record Hannah Drewry abt 1851 Chester-le-Street, Durham, England Head Hebburn Durham View Record Henry Drewry abt 1891 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record James Drewry abt 1881 Leadgate, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record John Drewry abt 1885 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record Joseph Drewry abt 1896 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record Polly Drewry abt 1877 Walker, Northumberland, England Daughter Hebburn Durham View Record Ralph Drewry abt 1874 Jarrow, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record William Drewry abt 1879 Walker, Northumberland, England Son Hebburn Durham ------------------------------------------- 1891 View Record Annie Drewry abt 1883 Hebburn, Durham, England Daughter Hebburn Durham View Record George Drewry abt 1888 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record Hannah Drewry abt 1851 Chester-le-Street, Durham, England Head Hebburn Durham View Record Henry Drewry abt 1891 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record James Drewry abt 1881 Leadgate, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record John Drewry abt 1885 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record Joseph Drewry abt 1896 Hebburn, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record Polly Drewry abt 1877 Walker, Northumberland, England Daughter Hebburn Durham View Record Ralph Drewry abt 1874 Jarrow, Durham, England Son Hebburn Durham View Record William Drewry abt 1879 Walker, Northumberland, England Son Hebburn Durham Ralph-head - is on the page before- aged 38 born north Shields --------------------------------------------- 1881 View Record Hannah Drewry abt 1850 Chester Le Street, Durham, England Wife 91 Front Street, Iveston, Durham, England View Record James Drewry abt 1881 Leadgate, Durham, England Son 91 Front Street, Iveston, Durham, England View Record Polly Drewry abt 1877 Walker, Northumberland, England Daughter 91 Front Street, Iveston, Durham, England View Record Ralph Drewry abt 1853 No Shields, Northumberland, England Head 91 Front Street, Iveston, Durham, England View Record Ralph Drewry abt 1874 Jarrow, Durham, England Son 91 Front Street, Iveston, Durham, England View Record William Drewry abt 1879 Walker, Northumberland, England Son 91 Front Street, Iveston, Durham, England ----------------------------------------

sight variation on brides name on the marriage though View Record DREWE[R_]Y, Annie 1908 September Marriages South Shields Co. Durham Tyne and Wear

Annie Drewry, daughter of Ralph and Hannah, was my ggmother, b 1883. She married John Robert Wintrip in 1908. Their son, John Hodgson Wintrip was my mothers father. I hope that is clear! Ralph is in the 71, 81 and 91 census returns, but drops off the 1901. I've just rechecked his marriage cert. and I was wrong, he gives his age as 20 on the 3.6.1871, so he could have been born anytime btw 1851 and 1853 I suppose. He signed the register and Hannah made her mark, so he must have had some education, his writing is reasonably good. I'll have a look at the records you mention, thanks for that. Ian

In which case... View Record Newnham, Betsy 1874 December Marriages Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland would maybe give us another name to hunt out

Ian This might be a long shot but 1861 census, Westoe, Durham there is a Ralph Dockwray born about 1850 South Shields, stepson. Head of household is an Adam Newham and another stepson is given as Charles Dockwray 1848. The handwriting on the image is difficult and given the local accents I suppose this is a remote possibilty for your Ralph.

Can you take us back thru where the origins of this name are?. Is Drewry your direct line or is the female that Married Ralph Your Line?, Im just wondering if the name exists in your family today and the fact that the name was the same in both census and Marriage that both are a mistranscription of something else

Yep. Tried Drewery, Drury, Drurie, Drewrie, Drewerie, Dury, Jury, Jurie, Trury, Doory, Droory, Droorie, Droowry, Droowrie and Mactavish. :-) I've even looked through all the Ralphs I can find in the whole UK born 1849 - 1855 with nothing remotely similar born in the North. Only ones I find I can track them after 1871, so that rules them out. Can't find a charles with any of the above spelling listed anywhere as a commercial traveller or anything remotely like it. Maybe they were immigrants and changed their names? Or changed the name for another reason? Ian

I have the Drewery name in my tree. Have you tried this spelling?

I imagine the name is related to DRURY? If listed in a census by how it sounds, then that's a possibility. Christine

the only Ref i can find for the name in 1851, at least , at the right end of the country View Record Elizabeth Drewry abt 1834 Sunderland, Durham, England Pauper Newcastle upon Tyne St John Northumberland

On the 1871 census (same quarter he is getting married) he says he is 19! Merry

that is why i wanted a marriage age, Kath

Just had a thought about his age. If he says 'full age' on his marriage certificate (and he's not telling lies as they sometimes do) then his birth would be more likely to be 1850 or before, no matter what the census entries say. Kath. x

Well, he did die even if he was never born LOL: Surname Forename AAD District Page No Event Quarter Year Drewry Ralph 65 Sedgefield.10a 214 Death 2 1918 Merry

I don't think there will be too many churches in North Shields at that time Ian. You will have to trawl through the records. You could do this at an LDS centre if you order the parish records for Shields. Kath. x

Ian says 1853 in his post Jess. Kath. x