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I have on Ref. RG9/2906 on the 1861 Thomas Greenhalgh - son in law c 1822 + children Martha c 1843, Susannah c 1845 + Sarah A c 1847. + Thomas c 1853. Mother in law (Head) is Catherine Turner c 1788. All born Pendleton, Lancashire. I assume therefore that as Thomas Snr. is a widdower, that he was married to ? Turner. I have all the Greenhalgh's on subsequent census's but cannot find them before. I cannot find Mother-in-law before or after. I can only find 2 marriages of Thomas to a Turner but can't follow either of them through. - 1 is to a Mary Turner in 1842 and the other to a Betsy Turner in 1845. Can't find any deaths of either under Greenhalgh. He has a new wife in 1871 and I have traced her but would appreciate some help in tracing backwards to his first wife please. Thanks, Dea x

Oh dear I had a look too but the problem seems to be the dreaded missing pages. The 1851 census for pentleton and many neighbouring hamlets was damaged by water and isn't available. I lost some of my Pendlebury GREENHALGHs in the sam hole Louise

Thanks Louise, As you can see, I am still working on finding that link - I PROMISE to be in touch as soon as I find it. Thanks for looking for this one. Dea

Dea, the way I see it is this, could be wrong. CATHERINE TURNER must have married a TURNER, how do you know his first name as she is a widow 73 in 1861. So THOMAS GREENHALGH must have married one of CATHERINES daughters and THOMAS son in law was a widower in 1861. Am I right so far? TED

Dea THOMAS GREENHALGH 1851 HO 107/2215 age 27 born Pendleton, coal miner living in BURY.

Ted, You are confusing me now. - I do't know Catherines husband's first name as she was a widdow in 1861. Yes, I believe she must have a daughter who was married to Thomas Greenhalgh. The Thomas you have in 1861 is not the right one - my one was born Pendleton (not Bury) and was a Joiner (not a Coal miner). Thanks for the help though. Dea x

Just because the mother-in-law is called Turner doesn't mean that was her daughters name when she married Thomas. Mother or daughter could have been married more than once! You need a child's birth cert!! Only trouble is, I can't see any that fit on FreeBMD. So would mean a search of the GRO indexes. It is Clitheroe District, isn't it? Merry

Dea, is Pendleton the one near Pendle Hill, near Sabden, near Clitheroe ? Or somewhere else. Not sure where I am looking now. Joan (with a rubber on her pencil)

Merry + Joan, Pendleton is Salford, Manchester, Lancashire. Thanks for looking, Dea.x

Ted, It COULD be him but I think he got married in either 1842 0r 1845 and he SHOULD be a Joiner, not a Coal miner. Dea x

Dea, hi again. No, that THOMAS GREENHALGH was born in PENDLETON not BURY. he was lodging there age 27 which would have made his birth year 1824. TED. not a joiner though, down as a coal miner.

Dea. marriage THOMAS GREENHALGH to LUCY TURNER 1842 BOLTON VOL 21 PAGE 37. is that any good to you. First child MARTHA born 1843.

Thanks Ted, But, he should be a joiner and he SHOULD have 3 daughters - Martha 8, Susannah 6, and Sarah A 4. Can't be him???????????? Dea x

TED - YOU LOVELY MAN !!! Where did you find that marriage???????????? and how do you know 1st child was Martha??????? Dea x

Dea. youre making me blush now. Found it a site, cant remember now, it was half an hour ago and you dont expect my brain to keep up with time do you. Martha, you gave the name on your first post. TED.XX

TED< TED< TED !!! I know I gave you Martha's name BUT you have confirmed it as their first child. !!! - HOW GREAT IS THAT ??? Seriously, Thank you for the info - I have found the wedding now on 1837 BUT If you can remember where you confirmed Martha's birth, please let me know - If not, - hey ho!! - I'll find it again another way, one day! Dea x

I don't wish to appear negative, but re Martha, I think Ted was just reminding you when the first child was born as if to re-establish that the marriage would be good for date :O(( But I expect it is the right one!! Maybe you could trawl for Lucy's death to confirm? Merry

Thank you Merry - Great minds think alike - I've had a trawl for the death but haven't found it yet. BUT I WILL !!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks again, Dea x

Dea, MARTHA GREENHALGH born BOLTON 1843 book 21 page 111. Worth a try seeing as mom and dad were married BOLTON year earlier. What do you think.