Genealogy Chat

ada roberts marries frederick rodds.... frederick rodds is son of edwin and lucy.... frederick dies and ada lives alone for 10yrs.... edwin goes missing after 1881...... but lucy pops up in 1901 living as man and wife with a frederick jones one of there kids is called george jones...... ada marries george jones in 1920..... so ada has married her step brother in law angie xxxx

what ? what? Que - as Manuel used to say? Stick a full stop or two in please- then i might understand - i've had a hard day!!

there you go jess..........................and a few more for luck lol

Did you say before, that the man Ada married the second time - George Jones - had a middle name?? Was it Evans or something similar?? You could check the birth indexes for George's birth to confirm the middle name. If you can find a birth reg with the right middle name then you could also get the birth cert to check that Lucy was the mother. (I remember George Jones was the eldest of these Jones children, so if Lucy is his mum she should be the mum to all of them!!) Five minutes later......... I just looked at the infamous Q4 1888, as this is a lone quarter that hasn't been transcribed by freeBMD. Surprise, surprise, I think this may be YOUR George Jones!: George Evan Jones - 1888 Q4 Aston District, 6d 272 So it was Evan, not Evans?!?!?! That's spent another £7 for you, just before Christmas! Merry

o my god your a genius i luv you lol iv got to send for it now yes his middle name was evan big hugs for you merry xxxxx

so ada married her late husbands 1/2 brother - yes - i think....I understand now! Gawd! Does that mean they had their own neices and nephews.....!! still wonder what became of Edwin Rodds!

yes thats right jess just ordered georges birth cert this must be him as there cant be many george evan jones born in b,ham have checked the ref on 1837 and there he was big hugs to all who have helped me thank you will keep you posted angie xxxx

will it tell me on georges birth cert that georges dad frederick jones was welsh angie xx

Calm down Angie!! No, the birth cert will only tell you that Frederick Jones, the father, was a baker!!. (unless it says, ''A Welsh baker'' LOL)....I expect the cert will suggest that Frederick and Lucy (if she IS the mum) were married, but I don't think they had actually had a ceremony! It will be very interesting to see if the name Rodds gets a mention. If Lucy was pretending to have been widowed from Edwin and then officially married to Frederick, her child's birth cert should read, for the mother: Lucy Jones, late Rodds, formerly Hardman. When's the cert due to arrive???!! Merry

so when was the first child born to Lucy and the new hubby then? 1888?

Yes, George (1888) is the eldest on the 1901 census (down as Georgy aged 12). They are elusive in 1891!! Lucy was incorrectly entered as born Cardiff in 1901. Maybe you can find them in 1891, Jess? A little nighttime project for you??! Merry

looks as if it might be... Jones, Elice Maria abt 1891 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Aston Warwickshire *Alice Jones, Ellen Graeme abt 1879 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Aston Warwickshire Jones, Frederick abt 1832 Montgomery, Norfolk, England Head Aston Warwickshire Jones, Frederick abt 1878 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Aston Warwickshire Jones, George Irean abt 1889 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Aston Warwickshire Jones, Lucy abt 1859 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Wife Aston Warwickshire Source information: RG12/2402 Registration district: Aston Sub registration district: Deritend ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 84 Page: 4 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6097512

RIGHT, THAT'S IT............................................................................... STROP................................................................ I'M GOING TO BED NOW - SULK!!!!! I spent bloody hours and hours lookingf for them yesterday and the day before and you sneak up with them in 2 mins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fred Jones 1878 is Fred Rodds Who's that Ellen 1879?? Frederick Jones senr was single in 1881. That's your next project :o)) Have fun! Merry

:- p Got it Freds Mrs is up t' mill with Edwin!! Thought fred Rodds was born leicester? A welsh baker is unlikey ...as he was something to do with haulage in 1891!

LOL!! Yes, Fred jr was born Leicester and Fred sr wasn't born in Norfolk and Lucy was born in Yardley.............They're not much good at doing their census form, are they?? Merry

which one do think is the Fred Jones 1832 , now husband ,in 1881 then? Merry Got to work today * GROAN* - nodded at the wrong moment - will be back later

looks like jess and merry are having a jolly good time researching my family lol just got in from work and thought id check my thread so is that the 1891 census then with my george,frederick and lucy by the way it says frederick born norfok but monmothshire is in wales angie xxxxx

on 1901 census it has frederick born 1855 and 2 different children appart from george alice jones born 1893 and elsie 1891 so is this the same family as on 1901 angie xxx

i think frederick and ellen are lucys step children(frederick jones children) and alice,george and elsie are fredericks and lucys children what do you think im going by the years they were born angie xxx

I don't think we know for certain! I wouldn't worry about it too much. Try getting the 1888 birth cert for george E Jones and maybe the address on it will match up with something in 1891? Merry