Genealogy Chat

Hi June The 1881 cenus states the name as gates not gater. Except it has samuel abt 1830 with correct place of birth and has a wife mary. If it was recorded on census as gates that would explain why i couldnt find them on 1881 census on ancestry.com.

Hi Marie, If you look at 1861 samuel has a wife called Charlotte A in 1871 no wife and in 1881 wife called Mary looks like he was married twice. 1881 census off Ancestory but looked at image and it looks like Gater wrote bad, Looked at image for 1871 he is a widower June

If anyone can decipher the following info for me it would be a help. 1861 census -birmingham warwickshire Samuel Gater born abt 1830 newport, shrops head Charlotte A gater (nee Sheardown) abt 1831london +3 daughters charlotte,catherine and wilhelmina& 2 son thomas, samuel (bn bet 1852 & 1860) 1861-census-shelton staff Frank Gater bn abt 1857 hanley, staff grandson living with sheardowns 1871 census- Samuel Gater bn abt 1830 newport,shrops head (occupation tailor) francis abt 1857 staff son francis m abt 1869 chelsea dau james abt 1865 st james, london 1881 census-st clements, london samuel gates born abt 1830 newport shrops head(occupation tailor) mary gates born abt 1840 newcastle on tyne wife with charles,christopher,robert, elizabeth (children)born in london also a frances,m gates abt 1869 chelsea! I found death reg for charlotte ann gater in 1866 who died in london. Do you think its the same samuel gater as head of all families who perhaps remarried after charlotte died and has been recorded as Gates in 1881 census. Its strange they have same place and date of birth, occupation and a daughter called Frances M born in chelsea.

It took me so long to write my message you had already deciphered the query for me lol

now i need to connect francis gater bn abt 1854 in staffs with francis gater bn abt 1857 (occupation painter) staffs and had a son francis bn abt 1885 london! and then connect them to my missing gt grandfather john henry gater bn 1893 london. He had a father called frank who was a painter and another rellie called francis (this i got from wedding cert)

On freebmd i found the marriage of samuel gater and mary dixon in dec 1879 at Westminster. I also found birth reg for charles dixon gater and christopher dixon gater. But no reg for elizabeth d gater abt 1876 and robert gater abt 1871. Nor frances m gater abt 1868 who was with samuel in his 1871 household when it listed him as a widower. If his 1st wife died in 1866 then who is frances mother? mary dixon? If so why wasnt she listed at the same 1871 census address. Can someone look for a Mary Dixon in london on this census.