Genealogy Chat

You might be better going through the local register office as they can sometimes be more helpful that the GRO which will more likely to stick to the rules. Also the local files are slightly different from the national copies sometimes. I have had some offices EMail me with possible alternatives for a match and usually they will usually not charge if not found. Of course if you believe last week's TV programme you just go to the counter and ask for the certificate! MB

Just to clarify folks.. to put a happy end to this ... Alice located the mistranscribed 1901 census entry...ie the family name was transcribed BONN not BENN. The family she lists in her entry timed at 21:33 details the family composition as i understood it to be from relatives etc...ie Amos, Joe, Violet. Ive now working to put more meat on the bones, but this was the break i needed! Thanks again Roger

Alice has the match..all the brothers and sisters are the same....Thanks alot folks Well helped.. Big smiles all round

Frederick's age is a bit haywire between 1891 and 1901.......The enumerator must have felt like I do now! LOL Merry

could this be emma in 1871 , the rest of the famly in th evillage transcribed the same Emma Hestall abt 1863 Dadington, Leicestershire, England Visitor Dadlington Leicestershire Elizabeth Shilton abt 1813 Stoke Golding, Leicestershire, England Head Dadlington Leicestershire View Record Ann Hastall abt 1868 Stoke, Leicestershire, England Daughter Dadlington Leicestershire View Record Emma Hastall abt 1831 Stoke Golding, Leicestershire, England Wife Dadlington Leicestershire View Record Joseph Hastall abt 1860 Dadlington, Leicestershire, England Son Dadlington Leicestershire View Record Kate Hastall abt 1870 Dadlington, Leicestershire, England Daughter Dadlington Leicestershire Record Thomas Hastall abt 1820 Bosworth, Leicestershire, England Head Dadlington Leicestershire

I thought it was next door actually (did notice it was something grange tho) just checked freds age in 1891 - going some to have a son in 1901 , much youger wifey though

The address for the ''Bonn'' family that Alice found is Ibstock Grange, Ibstock! Merry

was thinking''child born 1901...' prob not married 10 years prior. maybe they were and he was a 'subsequent 'child. thing that is addling me now, is both Emm and elizabeth are mentioned on birth cert

Bit funny about their forenames perhaps?? Marriages Dec 1882 >>>>Benn William Mt. Bosworth 7a 177 >>>>Hextall Emma Mt. Bosworth 7a 177 Parsons Joseph Mt. Bosworth 7a 177 Towers Edith Jane Mt. Bosworth 7a 177 Merry

Alice, I can't see why they can't be married in 1891?? Merry

Oh this is wierd(or am i getting carried away here...?) searched for Emma born dadlington in 1881 , and look who appears!! Name: Emma Hextall Age in 1881: 18 Age months: 0 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relationship to head-of-household: Servant Household: View other family members Family and neighbors: View neighbors Gender: Female Where born: Dadlington, Leicestershire, England Address: Hinckley Road Park Farm Civil parish: Burbage County/Island: Leicestershire Condition as to marriage: Unknown Occupation: Servant Domestic Employment status: View Image Source information: RG11/3130 Registration district: Hinckley Sub-registration district: Burbage ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 28 Page: 18

Neither of those references relate to a Frederick Benn. I have searched for him and the only one I can find married in Cannock - way outside you area, and not to your Elizabeth. I wouldn't order from those references at this time. Dea x

from 1901 census for Ibstock..these folk transcribed as BONN are actually Benn ** seeing your last addition/comment , maybe THIS is granny Emma Benn Amos Bonn abt 1891 Sharnford, Leicestershire, England Son Ibstock Leicestershire Emma Bonn abt 1863 Dadlington, Leicestershire, England Wife Ibstock Leicestershire Frederick Bonn abt 1862 Sutton Cheney, Leicestershire, England Head Ibstock Leicestershire Joseph Bonn abt 1889 Sharnford, Leicestershire, England Son Ibstock Leicestershire Voilet Bonn abt 1899 Upton, Leicestershire, England Daughter Ibstock Leicestershire Eligah Magor abt 1847 Tunstall, Staffordshire, England Boarder Ibstock Leicestershire No, they cant be yours 1891 they are married View Record Benn, Emma abt 1863 Dadlington, Leicestershire, England Wife Sutton Cheney Leicestershire View Record Benn, Emma E abt 1885 Cross in Hand Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England Daughter Sutton Cheney Leicestershire View Record Benn, Frederick W abt 1832 Sutton Cheney, Leicestershire, England Head Sutton Cheney Leicestershire View Record Benn, George A abt 1891 The Shake Claybrooke, Leicestershire, England Son Sutton Cheney Leicestershire View Record Benn, Joseph M abt 1889 The Shake Claybrooke, Leicestershire, England Son Sutton Cheney Leicestershire View Record Benn, Thomas W abt 1884 Sutton Cheney, Leicestershire, England Son Sutton Cheney Leicestershire

Just an addition to this.. .in section 7 on the birth certiificate ie signature, description and residence of informant the following text is written....'Emma Benn mother The Grange Ibstock' However section 5 of the certificate, ie name and maiden surname of mother the following text appears..'Elizabeth Benn formerly Hextall' Confused??

Keep it up folks.... I have the birth certificate for the child: Details are: Childs name 'Frederick William Benn' Registered in Market Bosworth, Sub District Ibstock. Born on 21st September 1901 in The Grange, Ibstock. Fathers name 'Frederick William Benn' Mothers name 'Elizabeth Benn formerly Hextall' registered on1/11/1901 I have not looked for the the child in the 1901 census because i thought the census took place earlier in the year. Thanks again

this is confusing me! Benn, Mary 1897 September Marriages Market Bosworth Leicestershire HEXTAL, Richard Thomas 1897 September Marriages Market Bosworth Leicestershire but it might help with birth places...or something.... possibly them in 1901 Farrie Hextall abt 1867 Leamington, Warwickshire, England Brother Nuneaton Warwickshire Fred Hextall abt 1900 Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England Son Nuneaton Warwickshire Mary Hextall abt 1869 Sutton Cheney, Leicestershire, England Wife Nuneaton Warwickshire Richd Thos Hextall abt 1868 Wellsborough, Leicestershire, England Head Nuneaton Warwickshire

I can't see a Frederick Benn with wife Elizabeth in 1901........ Maybe he/they are mistranscribed........If I knew where their child was born I could look harder!! Merry

Questions! 1) Have you found the couple on the 1901 census?? If yes, can you post the details? 2) What was the birth reg for the child born in 1901? 3) Have you got the 1901 cert and if you have, what was the address for the birth and the date? Merry

Thanks The details i have are as follows: Elizabeth Hextall married Frederick Benn. Based on the birth on one of their children was born in 1901 and at this time they were married . Not knowing the year of the marriage i have researched in the registers back to 1885 for an Elizabeth Hextall getting married: There are two listed: Elizabeth Hextall married listed inthe Apr, May, June 1897 register. This Elizabeth was married in Market Bosworth (the right area) and the reference is 7 a 193 The other Elizabeht Hextall married listed in the Jan, Feb, Mar 1899 register. This Elizabeth was married in Ashby Z (again the right area) and the reference is 7 a 143. I have checked the corresponding books for Frederick Benn but there appears to be no match. Should i just purchase copies of the certificates to confirm/disprove or Can anyone help? Thanks

Just put the details on this thread.....just click Add Reply, like you did just now..... Not that anyone will answer for a while, as I expect everyone will be watching Who Do You Think You Are?? on BBC2 in a mo!!! Merry