Genealogy Chat

Following on from Carrie's post for the 1871 census, here is John and Sarah in 1881.....note his occupation!! John WRIGHT Head M Male 50 Malpas, Cheshire, England ***Carter*** Sarah WRIGHT Wife M Female 49 Bristol, Somerset, England Thomas WRIGHT Son U Male 14 Liverpool, Lancashire, England John WRIGHT Son U Male 9 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Agnes WRIGHT Daur U Female 18 m Liverpool, Lancashire, England It's good that John and Sarah are born in quite different places, as this makes tham much easier to pick out on each census! Merry

Janet At the end of the day all you can do is send for certificates in the time period and correct area referencing the fathers name must be John, you may be lucky and only come up with just the one? don't order them online actually call them, as online they that take No notice of the referencing but still charge the price of it, in my experience anyway. I do think the mother is Sarah though as its the only family with Father with the name john and children with names of Elizabeth and william.

MY Great gran was registered as Mary Jane married as Maria Jane and 1901 called Jane

I agree with you and think this is them in 1871 View Record Elizabeth Wright abt 1857 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire View Record Elizah Wright abt 1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire View Record Enoch Wright abt 1864 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire View Record James Wright abt 1867 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire View Record John Wright abt 1831 Chester, Cheshire, England Head Liverpool Lancashire View Record John Wright abt 1870 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire View Record Sarah Wright abt 1833 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Wife Liverpool Lancashire View Record William Wright abt 1859 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool in other census she is down as Sarah Ann

Thanks for that Merry. If I look for a marriage between the Head & Wife in each household I may find the wifes maiden name could be Cranmer (am I right?) In the 2nd family there is a Sarah Ann (Wife) who would be Elizabeths mother could she have been witness at her daughters marriage. How likely is this

From the 1861 census: John Wright, bootmaker and family: Elizabeth Wright abt 1825 Penley, Shropshire, England Wife Liverpool Lancashire Elizabeth Wright abt 1857 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire John Wright abt 1820 Ireland Head Liverpool Lancashire Joseph Wright abt 1837 Ireland Boarder Liverpool Lancashire Margaret H Wright abt 1860 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Mary Jane Wright abt 1854 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire or John Wright, Dock labourer, and family: UPDATE, THESE ARE THE ONE'S (below)!!!!!!!! Elizabeth Wright abt 1857 Liverpool Daughter Liverpool Lancashire John Wright abt 1830 Walker, Cheshire, England Head Liverpool Lancashire John E Wright abt 1861 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire Sarah Ann Wright abt 1833 Bristol Wife Liverpool Lancashire William Wright abt 1857 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire or John Wright, Roller at Ironworks, and family: Charlotte Carter abt 1846 Liverpool Servant Toxteth Park Lancashire Elizabeth Wright abt 1858 Liverpool Daughter Toxteth Park Lancashire John Wright abt 1832 Liverpool Head Toxteth Park Lancashire Mary Wright abt 1838 Lancashire, England Wife Toxteth Park Lancashire Sidney E Wright abt 1860 Liverpool Son Toxteth Park Lancashire Then there are two families where the male head is missing: Elizabeth Wright abt 1859 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Toxteth Park Lancashire Mary Jane Wright abt 1857 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Toxteth Park Lancashire Widow>>>>Sarah Wright abt 1823 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head Toxteth Park Lancashire Sarah Grace Wright abt 1852 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Toxteth Park Lancashire Wm John Wright abt 1847 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Toxteth Park Lancashire and Elizabeth Wright abt 1856 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire >>>>Married>>>Ellen Wright abt 1831 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Liverpool Lancashire George Wright abt 1859 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire William Wright abt 1851 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire Merry

Merry Yes these have been on the board before. When I first started this family tree lark I naively thought I would type in relatives name and up would pop DOB, DOD, MARRIAGE, & CHILDREN (how stupid of me). It wasn't quite that easy. So put the Wright side to bed and concentrated on my other names. They have been quite easy to trace and I have managed to do quite abit. Have now decided to return to WRIGHT and see if I can break down the brickwall.

Place of birth is Liverpool definately. Father - John (a Carter) Witness to marriage - William Wright, Sarah Ann Wright. Married 5/Feb/1882. Thomas father - Michael Lunt (illegitimate)?????? Thomas born c1851. The problem I'm having - I find a family with the correct surname and dob for Elizabeth, when I check she has siblings of various names and always a Thomas with dob as 1851 so how do I know if this is her family as it could quite easily be Thomas' family also. HELP!!!

Loads of children with those names what area were they born?

Oops- messages crossed!! Ahhhhhh, but I have seen these people before!! LOL The Knocker up and her sons!!! Sorry, like meeting old friends!! merry

We definitely need to find her in 1891 or 1901 with her children (presume one is your grandparent) to establish her place of birth. Merry

Merry. Yes I have Cert for that. Children (1901) William E c1882 Thomas G c1883 John H c1885 James A c 1887 Elizabeth A c1892 Agnes 22/Nov/1894 (my Grandmother & have cert) but states fathers name as William) I know this info on 1901 is correct, also have them in 1891.

what are all the details on the marriage certificate, wtness's name, husbands and fathers occupations, area of West Derby and address's.

Do you know John Wright's occupation? Merry

The first marriage was 1882 West Derby Merry

Janet What year was her first marriage and what children did she have in that marriage? if you find her on a Census it will tell you which area she was born to help break it down. Carrie

Maybe Cranmer was her mum's maiden surname? (or another relations?? LOL) I had a quick look for John Wright marrying a Cranmer, with no joy, on the IGI or in Lancashire area on FreeBMD. Nothing appeared easily (well, at all!!)....but not all years I would have checked are available on FreeBMD. Merry

Thanks for all your help. As far as I know all my rellies come from Liverpool, so don't think thats her. Will just keep trying Unfortunately I don't know if she had any siblings. I only have an uncle (her Grandson) left to ask any info, he is due a visit soon so will bombard him with questions. Her fathers name was John and there are a few matches with this in the appropriate birth year and area, just need to narrow it down

can you find her (or her father) in the 1861/71 censuses? Did she have brothers and sisters, and if so can you find births for them?

Hi, Was she born around the Great Broughton area? As there is a Elizabeth Graham Wright - Great Broughton - 1858 J/F/M Quater. I have checked all births 1856\57\58 and that is the nearest. If the family could not spell and just told the registrar they may have put it down how they felt it should have been spelt? Regards - Louise