Genealogy Chat

Hi, I have an Annie Eliza Morris formerley Rippin who married my gg grandfather in dec 1901. He was John Haycroft. On their marriage cert it says her father was a watchmaker/jeweller deceased. I have no idea where she was from, how do I find out? She was 38 at the marriage in Barnsley, South Yorks. Lisa

What was her father's name? If you have a name and an occupation he can probably be found on the 1861 census. Andrew.

Can you find her on the 1901 census?

Lisa What was her father's name? Is she a Spinster? or previously married, given her age its a possibility. Chris

So you're looking for a Something RIPPIN, jeweller/watchmaker who died before Dec 1901? Christine

This looks like a possibility - knowing the way people switched their names around... Name: RIPPIN, Elizabeth Ann Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1862 District: Spalding County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 336 Christine

Historical Directories (Post Office Directory of Lincolnshire, 1868) show a RIPPIN, Ann (Mrs) watch maker in Holbeach, Lincs. furthermore, there's a RIPPIN, James, watch maker, Arcade, Spalding, Lincs. Christine

So far, there's nothing to link your Annie with James's family. This looks like him in 1871, when you'd expect Annie to be at home: James Rippin abt 1821 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Head, watch maker Mary Ann Rippin abt 1823 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Wife Lucy Ann Rippin abt 1858 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Daughter, scholar Alfred W Rippin abt 1861 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Son, scholar Arthur E Rippin abt 1864 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Son, scholar Source information: RG10/3322 Registration district: Spalding Sub-registration district: Spalding ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 48 Page: 2 But it does establish the watchmaker tradition with the name. Christine

This looks like an interesting household from your point of view: Ann Rippin abt 1811 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Head, widow, jeweller Ann Rippin abt 1838 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Daughter, jeweller **Eliza Rippin abt 1859 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Niece, general servant, domestic Thos Geo Percy Barlow abt 1848 Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Jonereyman (journeyman) Source information: RG10/3331 Registration district: Holbeach Sub-registration district: Holbeach ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 74 Page: 11 Christine

think this might be yours: Name: Rippin, Eliza Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1878 District: Spalding County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 738 ***Morriss, William Rippin, Eliza Robinson, Mary Harriett Samways, George Christine

Sorry - forgot to put this one in: Name: RIPPIN, James Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 64 Quarter: June Year: 1884 District: Spalding County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 217 Christine

Just found James in 1861 in Holbeach High St - not sure how he's actually transcribed: James Rippin, head, mar, 40, clock & watch maker, b Spalding James Rippin, son, unmar, 18, clock & watch maker, b Spalding Elizabeth K Rippin, daur, 13, scholar, b Holbeach Jacob Ambrose Rippin, son, 10, scholar, b Holbeach Christine I found James senr - he's listed as two years younger than his son, James!

Here's Ann senr + husband & dtr Ann in 1851 (in Holbeach, High St): William Rippon abt 1816 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Head, watchmaker Ann Rippon abt 1812 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Wife, assists her husband Ann Rippon abt 1838 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Daughter, scholar and James (also Holbeach, High St) James Rippin abt 1821 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Head, clock & watchmaker (master) Mary Ann Rippin abt 1823 Spalding, Lincolnshire, England Wife James Rippin abt 1845 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Son, scholar Elizabeth Kate Rippin abt 1849 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Jacob A Rippin abt 1850 (age 6 mo) Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Son Frances Flowerday abt 1834 Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England Servant Presume James & William were brothers (per the later census) Christine

Hi Christine, sorry it took me so long to reply, kids etc. Annie's father was called Joseph Rippin, but everything else looks like it fits, Thanks,Lisa

Joseph is in the same census areas. I've seen him, too. He was a watchmaker in Spalding. There's a poss death in 1867. Christine

Thats fantastic, Its very interesting that Annie came from Lincolnshire as John Haycroft married two other ladies from that area, even though he lived in Barnsley. Thanks ever so much for all the digging, Lisa

Just so you know how I picked on Lincs: It's an unusual surname; I put John (a nice common first name, statistically) RIPPIN into births in Ancestry and looked to see where most of the births were... I also allowed that there might be spelling doubts/mistranscriptions. Christine

PS - it looks like Joseph died of a broken heart - or the same problem that afflicted his wife - there's an Eliza, aged 40, whose death was registered in the June Q of 1867 - possibly why young Eliza was with her Aunt Ann in 1871? (assuming - risky - that it's the right Eliza.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to try that one with my other rellies. Lisa

PPS I enjoyed the challenge! - hope you don't mind too much that I've found out so many bits and pieces. Christine