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Could anyone help with info on JOHN WALLACE born 1802 at GREYSOUTHERN WORKINGTON.cumberland I trying to find who his parents were or who he married. Just coming to a blank after his birth. Thank you

Hi Pauline, Have you looked for his birth/christening entry on IGI (FamilySearch) site ? This is on IGI: JOHN WALLACE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 29 MAR 1802 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM WALLACE Family Mother: MARY Messages: ** Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. ** means it's a record taken direct from the Parish records - so is quite reliable .... but needs checking. Other possible siblings with same parents / same district / same record number ..... there could be others: 1. JOHN WALLACE - Gender: Male Christening: 29 MAR 1802 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England 2. ROBERT WALLACE - Gender: Male Christening: 19 AUG 1805 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England 3. GRACE WALLACE - Gender: Female Christening: 29 MAR 1802 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England 4. SARAH WALLACE - Gender: Female Christening: 11 DEC 1796 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England 5. EDWARD WALLACE - Gender: Male Christening: 01 JAN 1784 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England 6. WILLIAM WALLACE - Gender: Male Christening: 26 JUN 1791 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England 7. HENRY WALLACE - Gender: Male Birth: 27 JUN 1803 8. HENRY WALLACE - Gender: Male Christening: 01 APR 1804 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England 9. ANN WALLACE - Gender: Female Christening: 02 JUN 1793 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England 10. MARY WALLACE - Gender: Female Christening: 23 AUG 1789 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England Check out the FULL details for yourself babe ... http://www.familysearch.org And a possible marriage for the parents: ?? WM WALLACE Male Event(s): Marriages: Spouse: MARY COURT Marriage: 02 NOV 1788 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Elaine ;-)

How do you know when and where he was born? nell

Could this be him JOHN WALLACE Christening: 29 MAR 1802 Saint Michael, Workington, Cumberland, England Father: WILLIAM WALLACE Mother: MARY Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Info: Batch No.C011872 Dates: 1813 - 1825

This is the nearest John Wallace I can find in 1851:- George Barton abt 1831 Brigham, Cumberland, England Lodger Little Clifton Cumberland Joseph Blackbarn abt 1836 Workington, Cumberland, England Lodger Little Clifton Cumberland homas Clark abt 1831 Workington, Cumberland, England Lodger Little Clifton Cumberland Isabella Hasting abt 1828 Workington Servant Little Clifton Cumberland Watson Iredale abt 1843 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Visitor Little Clifton Cumberland Jhm Jackson abt 1795 Cleator, Cumberland, England Lodger Little Clifton Cumberland Eleanor Wallace abt 1799 Crosthwaite, Cumberland, England Wife Little Clifton Cumberland Henry Wallace abt 1827 Brigham, Cumberland, England Son Little Clifton Cumberland James Wallace abt 1844 Brigham, Cumberland, England Son Little Clifton Cumberland Jane Wallace abt 1831 Brigham, Cumberland, England Daughter Little Clifton Cumberland >>>John Wallace abt 1803 Brigham, Cumberland, England Head Little Clifton Cumberland John Wallace abt 1833 Brigham, Cumberland, England Son Little Clifton Cumberland Joseph Wallace abt 1825 Brigham, Cumberland, England Son Little Clifton Cumberland Thomas Wallace abt 1840 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Son Little Clifton Cumberland William Wallace abt 1837 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Son Little Clifton Cumberland Kath. x

Family records said born GREYSOUTHERN Father john but no mothers name The church would be rather Brigham orBroughton Thanks

I just happen to know someone who has Cumberland 1841 census on disc ......... I'll come back later Elaine ;-) Sorry, It's Westmorland 41 NOT Cumberland ......sorry

On the 1861 census:- Ellanor Wallace abt 1798 Branthwaite, Cumberland, England Wife Dean Cumberland >>>John Wallace abt 1803 Greysouthen, Cumberland, England Head Dean Cumberland John Wallace abt 1833 Greysouthen, Cumberland, England Son Dean Cumberland John Wallace abt 1857 Little Clifton, Cumberland, England Grandson Dean Cumberland Kath. x

1871 census:- John Brown abt 1857 Little Clifton, Cumberland, England Grandson Little Clifton Cumberland Thomas Nealy abt 1843 Great Clifton, Cumberland, England Boarder Little Clifton Cumberland James Robinson abt 1835 Gilarron, Cumberland, England Boarder Little Clifton Cumberland Eleanor Wallace abt 1798 Braithwait, Cumberland, England Wife Little Clifton Cumberland >>>John Wallace abt 1803 Milbanks, Cumberland, England Head Little Clifton Cumberland Kath. x

Thank you everyone I think KATHLEEN on the right tracks Pauline

Can't find him in the 1881 census, but there are 6 deaths for a John Wallace on Ancestry between 1871 and 1881. This one would be about the right age:- Name: WALLACE, John Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 72 Quarter: March Year: 1874 District: Cockermouth County: Cumbria Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 397 Kath. x

So it's 1803 rather than 1802 .... good work Kathleen x Elaine ;-)

The birth year may well be 1802. I usually find that if Ancestry say the birth is about a particular year then it is more often than not the year before. Kath. x

Thanks again Kathleen So his wife was Ellenor born 1797

If the 1861 census was taken on 7th April and Ellenor said she was 63, her year of birth would depend on whether she had her 63rd birthday at the beginning of 1861, or sometime after April 1860, so her birth year would be either 1797 or 1798, depending on this. Kath. x

Pauline, I'm just adding this to your thread babe, so I can come back to it shortly. Got pulled in another direction - so I'll be back as soon as I can. Elaine ;-) Elaine would you have any info on WILLIAM HILL from KENDAL WESTMORLAND .There was one born 1892and his father 1862 Thanks for taking the time to help me Pauline

Right Pauline, I;m back! What census's have you got William Snr and Jnr on please ? I need to know where they where in earlier census's so I can follow the family back and check Westmorland 41 for you. Elaine ;-)

Hi Eiaine All ive got is that William born 1892at Kendal ,his father was William born 1862 but im just thinking it could be Kendal(the same has william jnr} Maybe im on the wrong tracks thanks

Hi again Ionly got william snr off his sons birth cert...but know nothing else about him Sorry not much to go on Pauline

Pauline, Have visitor at moment, I'll be back - promise. Elaine ;-)