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Could the nickname Queenie equal the real name Mar

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PinkDiana

PinkDiana Report 1 Mar 2006 01:50

One of my grandmothers siblings born roughly 1904-1910 was known as QUEENIE..... Now having searched all records painstakingly, the only one that makes any sense would be MARY CECILIA HEDGE - is this likely or am I just trying to piece it together and adding 2+2 and getting 73?

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 1 Mar 2006 02:10

Queenie is a name in its own right. However, it was also sometimes used as a nickname for a girl who had the same name as the monarch. If she was born 1904-1910, that was some 200 years after the last Queen Mary, however! The monarch at the time was Edward VII, but his wife was Alexandra, not Mary. Still possible that your Queenie was a nickname though but I think that you'd need more supporting evidence to be sure.

PinkDiana

PinkDiana Report 1 Mar 2006 02:13

Thanks Richard...... can't find anything else that would be relevant in the right area so i think I'll send for the Certificate and keep everything crossed!! Grandma thought it was Queenie too but then she didn't realise that Connie was in fact registered as CONSTANCE!! Thanks for your help!! xx

 Debbie

Debbie Report 1 Mar 2006 02:15

Hi Pink, Just did a quick search for the name Queenie and it appears to be a name in its own right... Though sure a few people might have used it as a nick name of sorts.. Debs x

PinkDiana

PinkDiana Report 1 Mar 2006 02:22

Debs, thanks for that but the only QUEENIE HEDGE I can find was born 20 years too early at the other end of the UK so defo not that!! But I'll keep looking!! xx

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 1 Mar 2006 02:29

Two Queenie births: View Record Hedge, Queenie 1898 March Births Sheppey Kent View Record Hedge, Queenie Helen E 1892 September Births Sheppey Kent Suzanne

PinkDiana

PinkDiana Report 1 Mar 2006 02:33

Blimey Suzanne where did you find those 2? FREEBMD showing nothing and Familyrelatives showing nothing either..... I'll look into these two as all other children were London born but Kent not that far from there!! Thanks xx

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 1 Mar 2006 02:36

Hi Found them on Ancestry FreeBMD? (Not Beta just normal search) Suzane

PinkDiana

PinkDiana Report 1 Mar 2006 02:36

Oooh just realised why I couldn't find her...... she was born before her parents married!! :O) Grandma would be appalled if it is her especially as her mother was such a task master on marrying the right kind!! Too the degree that she wouldn't go to Grandma's wedding as she thought she was marrying beneath herself as Grandad was a Painter and Decorator!! :O)

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 1 Mar 2006 02:41

Naughty people!!! Suzanne

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 1 Mar 2006 02:45

Diana - if she was born before her parents married, then most likely she would have been registered with her mother's maiden name. Have you checked that out? Richard

PinkDiana

PinkDiana Report 1 Mar 2006 02:52

just checking that now!! Thanks xx

PinkDiana

PinkDiana Report 1 Mar 2006 02:57

Absolutely nothing for Queenie Gentry in 10 years before the wedding and 10 years after. Is it possible fr her to have the fathers name even if not married..... they would have married 3 months after her birth!! xx

PinkDiana

PinkDiana Report 1 Mar 2006 03:01

I'm off to bed guys as middle of night here in UK but thank you so much for all your help!! xx

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 1 Mar 2006 03:07

The actual register entry only records the first names of a child. For the purposes of indexing, the surname was taken from the mother's surname. Therefore, if the mother was not married, and had told the truth at the time, Queenie would have been listed under her mother's surname in the index. However, if the parents had told porkies regarding their marital status, she could well have been listed under her father's surname (i.e. if the mother had given her name as ''Hedge formerly Gentry''). This would have been easier to do in a big city, less chance that the registrar would have known the truth!

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 1 Mar 2006 06:09

Hi Pink Of the two Queenie's birth I found these are them in 1901: Thomas Underdown abt 1830 Queenborough, Kent, England Head Queenborough Kent Elizabeth Underdown abt 1836 Queenborough, Kent, England Wife Queenborough Kent Augustus Underdown abt 1871 Queenborough, Kent, England Son Queenborough Kent Emily Underdown abt 1875 Eastry, Kent, England Daughter Queenborough Kent >>>Queenie Hedge abt 1898 Queenborough, Kent, England Granddaughter Queenborough Kent Agnes Taylor abt 1872 London, England Visitor Queenborough Kent AND: John W Hedge abt 1864 Sheerness, Kent, England Head Sheerness Kent Eliza H Hedge abt 1867 Sheerness, Kent, England Wife Sheerness Kent John T Hedge abt 1896 Sheerness, Kent, England Son Sheerness Kent Cyril J Hedge abt 1900 Sheerness, Kent, England Son Sheerness Kent >>>Queenie E H Hedge abt 1893 Sheerness, Kent, England Daughter Sheerness Kent Suzanne

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 1 Mar 2006 06:39

1898 Queenie: Process of elimination: Dont thnk this is your Queenie: Looks like these might be the parents? Marriages Sep 1896 Hedge George Sheppey 2a 1693 Underdown Bessie Sheppey 2a 1693 Suzanne

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 1 Mar 2006 06:56

You may already have this: 1901 Census: Walter Gentry abt 1842 Colchester, Essex, England Head Wandsworth London Harriett Gentry abt 1851 Kensington, London, England Wife Wandsworth London Frank Gentry abt 1886 Redhill, Surrey, England Son Wandsworth London Louisa Gentry abt 1889 Kingston, Surrey, England Daughter Wandsworth London Ernest Lee abt 1880 Redhill, Surrey, England Stepson Wandsworth London Percy Lee abt 1882 Redhill, Surrey, England Stepson Wandsworth London Herbert Hedige abt 1876 Sarratt, Hertfordshire, England Visitor Wandsworth London Edith Hedige abt 1879 Reigate, Surrey, England Visitor Wandsworth London Edith Hedige abt 1900 Wandsworth, London, England Visitor Wandsworth London Suzanne

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 1 Mar 2006 06:57

The 1892 one doesn't look like yours either, if this was the parents marriage: Marriages Sep 1889 Colenutt Eliza Helen Sheppey 2a 1407 Hedge John William Sheppey 2a 1407

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 1 Mar 2006 07:03

Births from Sept 1/4 1911 - 1920 with fathers name Hedge and mothers name Gentry: No Surname Forename1 Forename2 Forename3 Mothers maiden name District Page No Event Quarter Year 1 Hedge Albert F Gentry Wandsworth.1d 1406 Birth 4 1919 2 Hedge Leonard Gentry Wandsworth.1d 1196 Birth 3 1915 3 Hedge Maisie Gentry Wandsworth.1d 1195 Birth 3 1915 4 Hedge Nellie Gentry Wandsworth.1d 1315 Birth 4 1912 5 Hedge Robert A Gentry Wandsworth.1d 1269 Birth 4 1914 Suzanne