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Heather

Heather Report 10 Mar 2006 14:42

I have my GGM living with her daughter and son in law in 1871 and she is shown as widow. She had been married for nearly 40 years by then to a John Steers who was a mariner. The only likely death I can find of John Steers right age and right reg district is 1873. This a silly question but - if he were say lost at sea, would the registration be later than the actual death? I just cant see this couple splitting up - they were a huge extended family in Rotherhithe. Thoughts please before I waste another £7.

Glen In Tinsel Knickers

Glen In Tinsel Knickers Report 10 Mar 2006 14:45

Hi Heather, sorry can't answer that for you,just had a little flutter seeing your name asking about mariners,what with my Norfolk/mariner connections,i just had to have a second look. Glen

Janet in Yorkshire

Janet in Yorkshire Report 10 Mar 2006 15:17

Don't know the answer to your question, Heather, but if he was lost at sea, what registration district are you expecting it to be in? Wouldn't it have to be where the body was recovered, or brought ashore? If no body, I thought it was a 7 year wait? Jay

BrianW

BrianW Report 10 Mar 2006 15:20

If he was lost at sea would there actually be a GRO entry? In any case I can't see how it could be two years+ late.

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 10 Mar 2006 15:37

Hi, My ancestor was lost at sea and there is no death cert for him. He is commemorated on his wife's grave. Gwynne

Heather

Heather Report 10 Mar 2006 15:38

Very strange one isnt it?

Heather

Heather Report 10 Mar 2006 15:55

Right guys, cant stand it, getting me credit card out now.

Lynne

Lynne Report 10 Mar 2006 15:58

As the sayin goes 'this probably sounds silly but' Was there not some sort of ruling that if a person was not known to be physically dead, presumed missing / lost at sea was there not a time limit before wills could be dealt with etc, like, 5 years or something Sorry for sounding dim - Just a thought I'll get my coat then!!! xLynne

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Mar 2006 16:00

My grandfather was lost at sea in 1907. The captain made his record in the ships log which was handed in at the end of the voyage in Hamburg. A death cert was issued called Entry in the Marine Registers.You have to know the vessel's name to look up the entry for the ref from which to orde a copy, These are held at the FRC in London Shirley

Linda in the Midlands

Linda in the Midlands Report 10 Mar 2006 16:00

I don't think you will get a death cert, I've been looking to get one for a relative lost at sea WW2 sent to gro told me there no record of him, (cost 11.50 for that and they charged me 4.50 to tell me they couldnt find him) another friend sent me a web site that said if they are lost at sea no death cert

Heather

Heather Report 10 Mar 2006 16:04

Right guys, where you were, I have another contender dying 1865 in Greenwich. (I feel like dying now having trawled about 40 quarters of the bmd index) Now I would have liked to have seen this as St Olaves, Rotherhithe BUT, the thought struck me, a couple of weeks ago I sent off for another rellies death, again a mariner, again dying in Greenwich BECAUSE the Mariners Hospital is there - woo hoo. I think Ill spend the money on this one first anyway! Thanks for doubting me, that helped me look further afield. Bless you guys.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Mar 2006 16:07

Heather. Absolutly the Seamans Hospital is at Greenwich so any deaths there would come under Greenwich reg. I,m from that area!!!!(not the hospital lol) Shirley

Heather

Heather Report 10 Mar 2006 16:08

You just know a lot of mariners, eh??

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Mar 2006 16:15

Heather LoL I was a GOOD girl!! Well Had a Mum who I thought had Xray vision so just didnt dare!! Shirley

Merry

Merry Report 10 Mar 2006 16:18

My rellie was lost at sea in Oct 1862. His body was never recovered and there is no death cert at any time. His widow (only 24 - poor girl) had to ''jump through hoops'' to get his will proved.........but it was done within a couple of months..... Merry

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Mar 2006 16:35

Grandad was in the Merchant Navy so that may have made a difference

Heather

Heather Report 10 Mar 2006 17:04

Well Shirley on a general thread they were talking about the safety in London for visitors and I said totally honestly 'Well, I was walking round the docks last Saturday night and wasnt worried' It was only the next day I thought 'erm...'

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Mar 2006 17:07

Heather I,m a Londoner born & bred in Charlton,lived there till 1967, BUT theres areas of the suburbs now that I,m uncomfortable in even in the daylight. Shirley

Rita

Rita Report 13 Mar 2006 22:09

My uncle was killed at sea during WW2'. He was in transit to war theatre when ship was bombed. He was in the army. When I visited the FRC in London I couldn't find a record of his death. I happened to ask a visitor if there was anywhere else that the records might be. He indicated to a section at the back of the room where the GRO records are kept. To the rear of the room was where the death records of service personnel killed in actionwere kept. We found my uncle's reference althought it was a tad out of alphabetical synch as had been added to the typewritten page by hand. I have his death certificate as we speak. Rita Rita

Germaine

Germaine Report 13 Mar 2006 22:17

Heather I am not too sure but I think that they didn't issue cert. for anyone lost at sea. I have looked for my g Grandfather and can't find him Now I may be wrong but I am sure someone told me that they have records for lost seamen at KEW.? Germaine x site for you to look at. swop stars for dots. http://www*mariners-l*co*uk/UKDeathsAtSea*html