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TinaTheCheshirePussyCat

TinaTheCheshirePussyCat Report 1 Apr 2006 19:23

For heaven's sake - I've had just about enough of this. Could someone please explain to me why every male named William in my family finds it absolutely necessary to marry a woman named Mary! Tina (who did not name her own children either William or Mary but has a nephew ................!)

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₪ TeresaW elite empress of deleted threads&# Report 1 Apr 2006 19:31

...and why all the Williams who married Mary in 1849 have not been transcribed in FreeBMD yet, so I will have no idea who Mary is until I can order the cert, therefore having nowhere else to go on that line. aaarrrggghhh. Found My Williams marriage, but no idea who to, certainly not any of the surnames we thought. T x

TinaTheCheshirePussyCat

TinaTheCheshirePussyCat Report 1 Apr 2006 19:36

Yes, I know exactly what you mean. And now, to add insult to injury, one of my William's had a sister called Mary and guess who she married? You got it - a William! I resign! Tina

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₪ TeresaW elite empress of deleted threads&# Report 1 Apr 2006 19:39

Tina, my William was brother to Richard, their Father was Richard as was HIS father, Both of those Richards Had a Brother William, the youngest Richard had a son William, and there are a couple of sisters called Mary in there too. I will resign too if I find they married Williams. T x

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₪ TeresaW elite empress of deleted threads&# Report 1 Apr 2006 19:48

That was on my maternal Grandfathers family, now on my maternal Grandmothers side....hmmm lets see, we have Joseph, who Married Mary, his father....Joseph, his mother...Mary aarrrgghhh. I think this is one of the thirteen commandments, If thou art called William or Joseph, thou shalt only marry Mary. T x

SheilaSomerset

SheilaSomerset Report 1 Apr 2006 19:50

I've got a Joseph and Mary - who named their children........ Joseph, Mary and William !!

Rachel

Rachel Report 1 Apr 2006 19:58

Anyone want some Elizabeths??? I have Elizabeth, whose daughter was Elizabrth Ann, whose sister in law was Elizabeth, whose daughter was Elizabrth Ann confused yet?? Then the other side of he family there must be 10 generations of Jophn, William, Robert (brothers, fathers, sons and cousins) can I kill them yet?? oh heck! there already gone! lol

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₪ TeresaW elite empress of deleted threads&# Report 1 Apr 2006 20:01

errr....checks tree....no ta, got a few Elizabeths, and the Sarah's and Johns are causing me a bit of bovver too. Thanks goodness for the two Shentons. T x

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 1 Apr 2006 20:03

James Holden marries Margaret Slater (spinster of this Parish) At almost the same time, James Holden marries Margaret Slater (Widow of this Parish) A bit later (but not much) James Holden (widower) marries Margaret Slater, spinster of this Parish. This last Margaret Slater is the daughter of Widow Slater. Beyond that I have not got. The above information spawned a tree on AWT which led to poor old Margaret Slater giving birth to 44 children over a period of 20 years, some born only weeks apart, and shock horror, some of their fathers being Margaret's own five year old son, James Holden. Olde Crone

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₪ TeresaW elite empress of deleted threads&# Report 1 Apr 2006 20:11

YOu know what? If they are 'up there' watching us, they must all have tears running down their faces from laughing. I think the joke is on us, don't you? Mind you, we thought we (20th century people ) had made it easy for future generations with different names etc, and what do they do? They decide not to get married, or they have children by different fathers, or divorce and remarry several times, so future generations will be shaking their fists at us too. Ah well... T x

Kim

Kim Report 1 Apr 2006 20:13

I think there must be a law that all women related to you are called Elizabeth or Mary, if they weren't then they probably aren't related to anybody.... All father/sons related to you will always marry a woman with the same name as their own mother ! I have Eight generations of Elizabeth in one branch. Therefore don't do your family tree just write the same names down a few times 20 years appart and it will grow in no time! Kim

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 1 Apr 2006 20:27

On the other side of my family I have fourteen unbroken generations of Thomas Greens. They lived in the same farmhouse for at least 400 years. Generation 10 and generation 8 each married Mary Robinson, their cousin. Both families have an identical run of named children. I have to be VERY careful that I do not muddle up the two generations and only work on this family early in the day LOL. They came from a small village which had, I suppose, about 30 families. The Greens married into every family in this village and I am wildly thinking of renaming this branch 'the Gawsworths', as everyone is related to everyone else, several times over and I lose track amongst all the Miss Mary's and Mrs Mary's etc. I tried giving them all a unique number, but that didnt work either, as some of them finished up with about 70 numbers, because I had to give the references a reference to the parents/grandparents! Olde Crone

Sarah

Sarah Report 1 Apr 2006 21:59

OMG how very confusing.. I guess I'm lucky then with 4 generations of Barnabus Burroughes before my gg grandfather ! haven't quite sorted them out yet as some of them are cousins. ho hum....-even the unusual names can get confusing!

TinaTheCheshirePussyCat

TinaTheCheshirePussyCat Report 1 Apr 2006 22:16

On my goodness, Olde Crone. I shall stop complaining about my 8 generations of William Jordan's. At least they had the decency to marry women with different names. It's the 5 generations of William Habberley's that are driving me nuts at present - they seem to be following in the footsteps of your Greens, marrying Mary's and cousins and calling their children by identical names. You do have to count to 10 sometimes though, don't you, when you get a message which starts 'I have a William Jordan in my tree - are we related?' Which one, which one, I scream! Tina

Helen

Helen Report 1 Apr 2006 22:22

Doesn't anyone have a problem with Thomas as well? My G Grandad was Thomas, his Dad William, his Dad Thomas, His Dad William.

Lynne

Lynne Report 1 Apr 2006 22:26

I have a similar problem with all my Edward Fords and my Joseph Owens. Edward Ford had a son called Edward; he also had a brother called Francis who had a son called Edward born within a year of Edward's son. (Are you still with me - LOL!). My maternal grandparents were first cousins, in FTM 2005 there is a facility to check relationships and my 2 children are also my 3rd cousins once removed and mother is my 2nd cousin once removed. My grandmother is also my 1st cousin once removed!! How weird is that - LOL!!

moe

moe Report 1 Apr 2006 22:37

My William married Mary in the 1850s had a son William daughter Mary, William married Mary (not his sister, that would be another story) in 1880s and when i do searches i get so muddled i end up spending a fortune coz i am getting confused with the dates, i have notebooks full of info on William and Mary and when i try to cross reference it i can't remember which one it is and have to search again.confused so am i.....Moe Is there a reason why this thread will not allow the word CONFUSED on it? it should be on the last line before 'so am I' now i am even more confused...MOE!

Sarah

Sarah Report 1 Apr 2006 22:38

Gracious! Lynne, That is totally w-i-e-r-d ! ! I'll have to try that in FTM - I still haven't got to grips with 'cousins x times removed' etc

Lynne

Lynne Report 1 Apr 2006 23:04

Moe It's cos you have a full stop then the word confused. GR does not allow you to put web addys that end with a dot and c and o, (or c and o and m) so if you put a full stop and then a c and an o it will not come out right. Wonder if this will?? Lynne

Lynne

Lynne Report 1 Apr 2006 23:07

Sarah More weird facts:- My brother and sister are my 3rd cousins, my aunts and uncles are my 2nd cousins once removed, my nephews and neices are my 3rd cousins once removed and my grandchildren are my 3rd cousins twice removed. and.... I am my own 3rd cousin!!!! Can anyone beat that - LOL! Lynne