Genealogy Chat

well ive searched under eliza and elizabeth davis and davies and cant find a trace of her birth (knowing my luck its one of the entries i cant read)

yeah ive forund that census record on roberts birth certificate (which by the way his birthday is october 1891 not december (sorry)) shes call eliabeth and she was from upwey in weymouth but i cant seem to find any trace of her in upwey in the census taken after her birth

Oh.....there's people at 20 Bell St born in Upway in 1891. Are they her relations? Sorry, but you haven't given us her name so I'm floundering a bit at the moment! I'm assuming this is Upwey in Weymouth we're talking about? She's not Eliza Anna Davies, is she??! Born 1855 LOL Merry

his date of birth was third december 1891. i found her in the 1891 census but not robert. ive been trying to find her birth record but cant seem to find her (born 1855 in upwey) im assuming she was pregnant at the time of the census

Christine - What was your g-grandfather's dob? Have you found him in 1891, or his mum, if she was still pregnant? If not, what was their/her name(s)? Merry

Speaking of home births I wonder if any of you remember or had a baby delivered by the wonderful midwives from Myddleton Square, Finsbury, especially Sister Bartle & Nurse Campbell, they were 'on the District' as we called it from the early 30's up until my son was born in 1958. They were attached to St.Batholomews Hospital and were also assisted by nurses doing their midwifery training at Barts. Two wonderful ladies who were well known in the area who with their assistants did a wonderful job.

my dad was born in hospital in 1956 tho my nan had been very ill and dad did almost die...i just find it weird that there are only four married people in the house and shes not the wife or either (at least its not on the form ) the other married is ainsworth tho she would have taken his name if he were her husband(?)

Almost all women were pregnant when they married anyway, it was no big deal. In fact most men wouldn't marry unless the girl was pregnant, they wanted to make sure she wasn't 'barren'. It's funny how men never (supposedly) had fertility problems back then, it was always the woman's fault LOL As for hospitals, they were avoided at all costs, they were mainly somewhere you went to die.

I was born at home in 1967 my Godmother delivered me as the ambulance wasn't quick enough.Have yet to find one of my rellies born in hosppital Linda

says on there she was married tho there are only three married people in the house and shes not listed as the wife. would that mean she told them she was married when she wasnt just because she was pregnant?

There was something on TV the other day - about Singer sewing machines - and apparently these were used to encourage 'ladies of the night' to come off the streets and take up a 'proper' profession, they were given or loaned the machines, I believe.

Even when I was a child/young teenager in the 1960s - no one ever went to hospital when they had a baby - unless they had particular health problems - the midwife would call, and your neighbour would go in to help. And dont forget up to the NHS was formed you had to pay for medical treatment, so you managed without it!

1891 census for 20 Bell St: Robert Carter abt 1846 South Stoneham; Southampton Head All Saints Hampshire Mabel Carter abt 1890 Southampton Daughter All Saints Hampshire Ellen Pearce abt 1879 Southampton Adopted All Saints Hampshire Eliz Anna Davies abt 1855 Upwey, Dorset, England Lodger All Saints Hampshire John G Carter abt 1880 Upwey, Dorset, England Son All Saints Hampshire John Moore abt 1841 Ireland Lodger All Saints Hampshire Wm Ainsworth abt 1869 Southampton Lodger All Saints Hampshire Alice Carter abt 1870 Southampton Wife All Saints Hampshire There are two errors in the above transcripts......Alice Carter is Alice Ainsworth and John Carter is John Davies (In my opinion, anyway!) The head is a dock labourer Merry

Kath Absolutely no offence taken - I thought it was hilarious. Snowdrops

I've said this before -- I AM a dressmaker, really I am. LOLOL Anne

Sorry Snowdrops - didn't mean to offend your ancestors. I know that some dressmakers did actually make dresses, lol. Kath. x

if she was a lady of the night that would explain the illigitamate child thing. ive tried to search on bell street about that time but not coming up with any information ...its not a red light district these days he was born in 1891

In 1881 there was only one person at that address..... John Butler abt 1809 Southampton Head Southampton All Sts Hampshire He was a bricklayer. Merry

To be fair not all dressmakers were 'ladies of the night' My great grandmother was a master tailoress who made a suit of clothes for royalty and she certainly wasn't a lady of the night. - I think!!!! LOL Snowdrops

What year was he born? Maybe we could look at the address on a census and see how many people were living there etc? Merry