Genealogy Chat

Thinking sideways - who is living with grandfather John in 1871 (I haven't got access) Peter

I think Sarah is somewhere but who knows where? I am guessing the more that you find out about her family the more you will find out about her.

I know - I;ve just been looking - but I don;t actually have any solid proof to link Sarah to Thomas to Elizabeth - or do you think what we have got is strong enough. Thanks for all your help. tom :-)

I would get another of the children's birth certs as I think you might end up with the wrong one as there are 2 Sarah Owens of a similar age but you could always add checking points.

Yes - and there is some fo the children are born in Shifnal -I think that we have one brick wall knocked down so to speak - will have to see if I can find a birth reg and see what comes from that.

Tom - Have you seen my message - sorry I made a blob first time it is the 1881 census. I think this is the same Thomas as the 1871 - still without Sarah but the right place for the marriage! Anne

Wrong parents Tom!

So look at this in 1881!! Record Albert Owen abt 1871 Wom..., Shropshire, England Son Altofts Yorkshire View Record Eliza Owen abt 1841 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Wife Altofts Yorkshire View Record Emma Owen abt 1877 Silkstone, Yorkshire, England Daughter Altofts Yorkshire View Record Florance Owen abt 1873 Wom..., Shropshire, England Daughter Altofts Yorkshire >>>>View Record Thomas Owen abt 1841 Dawley, Shropshire, England Head Altofts Yorkshire See where they are living! Anne

But isn;t this her in 1871 - and if it is then she has the wrong Father (aaaaggggghhhhhhhh) View Record Henry Owen abt 1846 Wellington, Shropshire, England Head Shiffnal Shropshire View Record John H Owen abt 1868 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Son Shiffnal Shropshire View Record Rachael Owen abt 1846 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Wife Shiffnal Shropshire View Record Sarah L Owen abt 1867 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Daughter Shiffnal Shropshire View Record Charles Skeet abt 1821 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Father-in-law Shiffnal Shropshire

How about this from 1881 (the rest of her family are in Yorkshire) Alfred D. SMITH Head M Male 29 Coventry, Warwick, England Certificated School Mr Frances SMITH Wife M Female 27 Iscoyd, Flint, Wales School Masters Wife Herbert J. SMITH Son Male 4 Clive, Shropshire, England Scholar Samuel P. SMITH Son Male 3 Iscoyd, Flint, Wales Scholar Sarrah OWEN Other U Female 13 Clive, Shropshire, England Servant (Domestic) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Cottage On Hill Census Place Clive, Shropshire, England Family History Library Film 1341640 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2668 / 31 Page Number 15 Peter

I know but you can't expect perfection!!!

But there is no mention of Sarah. *getting confused now* lol.

Elizabeth Edge abt 1863 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Wife's Daur Wombridge Shropshire View Record Albert Owen abt 1871 Wombridge, Shropshire, England Son Wombridge Shropshire View Record Eliza Owen abt 1841 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Wife Wombridge Shropshire View Record Thomas Owen abt 1841 Dawley, Shropshire, England Head Wombridge Shropshire Sorry hard to cut and paste as I have been booted onto the laptop.

I can;t find it - do you have the reference please?

Tom??? Mother looks to be Eliza Edge.

Check the 1871 census looks like mum had illegitimate daughter. In Wombridge.

Could it be Shifnal if you look at the 1881 census? There is also a Sarah with a years difference in birth years.

1881 Eliza Owen abt 1855 Wellington, Shropshire, England Daughter Shifnal Shropshire John Owen abt 1817 Wellington, Shropshire, England Head Shifnal Shropshire Sarah Owen abt 1819 Little Wenlock, Shropshire, England Wife Shifnal Shropshire >>>> Sarah Owen abt 1868 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Granddaughter Shifnal Shropshire John is a coal miner Angela

yep that's what it says for her birthplace.

Yes - that is who she married which made me think that they may be her family...