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Right said Fred | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:18 |
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See below - it may take a while though.... tthanks for looking... |
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Right said Fred | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:25 |
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I have asked before but it hasn;t gone anywhere - but now I have more details. I am trying to find my gg grandmother. She married my gg grandad on May 17th 1891 (spinster age 23) both of them are down as living in Altofts. Her Father is Thomas Owen, a miner. The witnesses at the wedding were John and Margaret Owen. Sarah Chilton then died on 13th January 1897 aged 28. The problem is that I cannot find her at all on any census. I can only find this in 1891: View Record Albert Owen abt 1871 Oakengates, Shropshire, England Son Altofts Yorkshire View Record Elvia Owen abt 1841 Smfrace, Shropshire, England Wife Altofts Yorkshire View Record Thomas Owen abt 1841 Dawley, Shropshire, England Head Altofts Yorkshire The trouble is that when following this family through the census I cannot find any mention of Sarah with them. Any ideas and help greatly appreciated. Thanks Tom |
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Pippa | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:27 |
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Is your grandmother Sarah Chilton then? |
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Right said Fred | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:28 |
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Sarah Chilton (nee Owen) is my g g grandmother and would have been born 1869 / 1868. |
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Pippa | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:29 |
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And where was she born? |
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Right said Fred | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:31 |
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That's what I don't know because she married just after the 1891 census, but died before the 1901 census, and I can't find her in 1891 in the village at all. |
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Right said Fred | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:36 |
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can anyone read this Sarah's birthplace? Name: Sarah Owen Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: Snensall, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Wakefield Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Wakefield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Source information: RG12/3749 Registration district: Wakefield Sub registration district: Wakefield ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 83 Page: 12 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6098859 |
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Pippa | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:40 |
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Did you see the previous page at the end of the Owen entry? |
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Right said Fred | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:43 |
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Yes - that is who she married which made me think that they may be her family... |
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Pippa | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:43 |
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yep that's what it says for her birthplace. |
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Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon) | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:44 |
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1881 Eliza Owen abt 1855 Wellington, Shropshire, England Daughter Shifnal Shropshire John Owen abt 1817 Wellington, Shropshire, England Head Shifnal Shropshire Sarah Owen abt 1819 Little Wenlock, Shropshire, England Wife Shifnal Shropshire >>>> Sarah Owen abt 1868 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Granddaughter Shifnal Shropshire John is a coal miner Angela |
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Pippa | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:47 |
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Could it be Shifnal if you look at the 1881 census? There is also a Sarah with a years difference in birth years. |
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Pippa | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:53 |
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Check the 1871 census looks like mum had illegitimate daughter. In Wombridge. |
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Pippa | Report | 1 Jun 2006 21:57 |
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Tom??? Mother looks to be Eliza Edge. |
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Right said Fred | Report | 1 Jun 2006 22:12 |
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I can;t find it - do you have the reference please? |
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Pippa | Report | 1 Jun 2006 22:18 |
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Elizabeth Edge abt 1863 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Wife's Daur Wombridge Shropshire View Record Albert Owen abt 1871 Wombridge, Shropshire, England Son Wombridge Shropshire View Record Eliza Owen abt 1841 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Wife Wombridge Shropshire View Record Thomas Owen abt 1841 Dawley, Shropshire, England Head Wombridge Shropshire Sorry hard to cut and paste as I have been booted onto the laptop. |
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Right said Fred | Report | 1 Jun 2006 22:20 |
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But there is no mention of Sarah. *getting confused now* lol. |
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Pippa | Report | 1 Jun 2006 22:20 |
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I know but you can't expect perfection!!! |
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Peterkinz | Report | 1 Jun 2006 22:22 |
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How about this from 1881 (the rest of her family are in Yorkshire) Alfred D. SMITH Head M Male 29 Coventry, Warwick, England Certificated School Mr Frances SMITH Wife M Female 27 Iscoyd, Flint, Wales School Masters Wife Herbert J. SMITH Son Male 4 Clive, Shropshire, England Scholar Samuel P. SMITH Son Male 3 Iscoyd, Flint, Wales Scholar Sarrah OWEN Other U Female 13 Clive, Shropshire, England Servant (Domestic) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Cottage On Hill Census Place Clive, Shropshire, England Family History Library Film 1341640 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2668 / 31 Page Number 15 Peter |
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Researching: |
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Right said Fred | Report | 1 Jun 2006 22:23 |
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But isn;t this her in 1871 - and if it is then she has the wrong Father (aaaaggggghhhhhhhh) View Record Henry Owen abt 1846 Wellington, Shropshire, England Head Shiffnal Shropshire View Record John H Owen abt 1868 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Son Shiffnal Shropshire View Record Rachael Owen abt 1846 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Wife Shiffnal Shropshire View Record Sarah L Owen abt 1867 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Daughter Shiffnal Shropshire View Record Charles Skeet abt 1821 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Father-in-law Shiffnal Shropshire |
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