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Have got a birth cert with Mother fas 'formerly Fielding' but can only find marriage with maiden name FieldEN - year would be right for first child, also town and hubby's name. Would you accept it as the right one? Opinions pls.

I'd say it was right. Gwynne

Andrea it is probably the right one, can you give us some names & dates so we can check for you. Georgina.

Thanks for replies. The marriage I was after was between Robert Knowles born 1840 in Lancashire (either Skerton or Accrington - census varies!) and Catherine Fielding born c1841. Catherine is a bit more difficult as the census have her down as born in Gibralter, Malta as British Subject and Woolwich!!!! First child was born in Blackburn Lancashire in 1860 so I searched all around there but can only find the marriage between Robert Knowles and Catherine Fielden - found it on Lancashirebmd. It's just the fact that the birth cert for one of the kids says formerly Fielding and not Fielden that is throwing me and making me a bit hesitant. I don't want to go barking up the wrong tree!! Thanks for any help you can give me.

It sounds very possible. Was the husband called John Smith or something less common? Were the couple married after 1851 and before 1901? if they were then can you find the bride before her marriage? How was her name spelled then? UPDATE! We crossed......what about getting a birth cert for another of their children? Merry

I am currently trying to find Catherine before her marriage. Have tried Fielding and Fielden but not found the right family so far. Trouble is, with the census having her down as born in Gibraltar and Malta as a British Subject, I may not find her!!! I guess I could get another certificate but if that is also Fielden, then I am still none the wiser but 7 quid poorer!!!

I have ancestors GOWEN/GOWING. The records show both names until they became literate & opted for GOWING at the end of the 19C.

Andrea I cant see any other likely marriage for Robert, I think you are going to have to invest £7 and keep your fingers crossed. Have you looked for Catherine's birth on the overseas births on 1837 online? Georgina.

Andrea, I have a Sarah Ann GOLDEN in my tree who is Sarah Ann GOLDING on her marriage registration, and it is definitely the right one (her husband had a unique name, and they have her father living with them on one of the censuses). So I would say, go for it. Kate.

I dont always trust certs. I have an Eliza Leivers who, on her marriage cert, is 'Eliza Lievers'. And a Waldis Krilovs who is Waldis KRILOUS. One of my relations didnt like their 1st name, so decided to only put their middle name on a marriage cert. Without the help of GR members, I wouldnt have known she was 'my' ancestor at all.

There are these two birth regs: GRO ARMY CHAPLAINS BIRTH INDICES 1840-1843 Malta Page 326 Catherine Fielding 1840-1843 Malta Page 447 Catherine Fielding UPDATE - and this one: Birth GRO REGIMENTAL BIRTH INDICES SUP 1761-1924 1841 Malta Vol RA 20 Page 99 Catherine Fielding I wonder if they are all the same person? Merry

Merry, they often have one entry for the actual birth and one for the baptism on those indexes, so at least two of them could be for the same person. Kate.

The overseas stuff is FREE to search on Family Relatives, but you have to have bought some units first.....you just don't spend any on that section! Merry

Just to add that Woolwich may not seem as strange as it seems compared to Malta. I have Maltese person in my hubby's family from the G G Grandad being in the Royal Artillery. I then wondered why they went from Malta to Woolwich and the answer of course is that the Royal Artillery are stationed there!

I didn't know that, Kate. Thanks. Pippa, Would the RA before the Vol number refer to Royal Artillery? Merry

Merry, Now you asked that would make sense as one of the navy deaths I had letters that referred to him being in the navy. I can't advise definitely as the birth and marriage was registered by the Maltese Civil Reg system rather than in the overseas British section.

I have a marriage certificate where the groom's name is given as Richard Applitt whereas I know that his name was Richard Habberley. I am certain that it is the right marriage as everything else fits perfectly. But then, if the parties concerned cannot read, then what is on a certificate is only going to be as good as what the minister, or for a birth or death, the registrar, thinks that they have heard. You only need someone with a broad accent who mumbles, and the whole thing can get completely garbled. No, I only trust certificates UNTIL PROVED OTHERWISE!!! Tina

Malta Family History Website: http://maltafamilyhistory(.)com/ (remove brackets) Index of Baptisms 1800-1900: FIELDING, Anne Jane 1838/1839 FIELDING, Caroline 1844/1846<<<<<<<<<see next post! FIELDING, Catherine 1840/1843 FIELDING, John 1836/1837 FIELDING, Sarah 1840/1843 Merry

Sister? 1861 census >>>>Caroline Fielding abt 1845 Malta Daughter Blackburn Lancashire Rachael Fielding abt 1806 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Head Blackburn Lancashire Merry

Just seen this thread a was thinking that if you say the names Fielding and Fielden out load, depending on your acent they sound the same I have alot of ancesters that used various spellings on certificates some literate and others illiterate so I personally would try not to worry to much about spelling as long as the names sound alike examples I have are Osborn, Osborne, Osburn Tournay, tourney, tornay, torney, tournai, even up to Tirnay Veale, Veel, Veal Jukes and Dukes (one and the same name)