Genealogy Chat

Well I knew it had that kind of notorioty, but as my family had pretty nice jewellery and their own business I assumed that they weren't as bad. May explain some things thoughm my great great grandad was a general dealer. Thanks for the link.

The East End? Are you kidding! It was desperately poor. Whitechapel was Jack the Ripper territory, where women sold their bodies for money to rent a bed (not even a room, just a bed) for the night. Of course individual streets varied, but it was generally very overcrowded and grotty. If you look at the area on censuses, you will see lots of Jewish names - the Jewish Soup Kitchen writing is still noticeable on a building which is now full of Yuppie apartments. The occupations were often 'general dealer' which I think was shorthand for 'second-hand tat'. More descriptions - and other useful info about Victorian London - here http://www.casebook.org/victorian_london/

It was the poor area?! I never knew that. Is there any info you have on that area? That's where my family were mainly from. I always thought them as well off, lol

Kirsten East London, especially Whitechapel is the POOR Jewish area. Richer folk moved to Golders Green. I think Paddington was a stop between. But you never know! Hope you find her, she's caused enough problems! nell

Hi Gwen and Helen, I suppose there is a possibility of it being her. I'm not from London so I don't know where certain areas are in relation to others. I always assumed that East London was the Jewish area. Shows you how much I know! Thanks Helen, I never thought of that!

One other thought is that she may have been mistranscribed in the GRO index as Cold- whatever instead of Gold because someone misread the writing. nell

Kirsten I would definitely want to see the Paddington cert. My husband has a Jewish branch in his family, they ran fishmonger's shops in Whitechapel, but they retired to PADDINGTON, which is where his gt grandmother died. There was definitely a Jewish contingent there. Your Blooma may have been staying with a Jewish friend/relative when she died. nell

Kirsten I know how frustrating it is I looked for 20 years for the death of my husbands great grandfather, was lead to believe he deserted his family and went to live in America, I never believed this as all my research showed he lived with his family even traced him on the passengers ship to USA with his family. I gave up looking and two weeks ago was reading a thread on here about the online Times Digitial library. I thought I would search the records not expecting to find anything of interest and much to my amazement there was an article about my Great Grandfather. I had at last found closer sadly he drowned at sea. I am telling you this as you will find about her death at some point just when you least expect it, good luck wish I could have helped more. Gwen

She could've left a will, but I've no idea. How would I find out? All I can say is that for some reason my grandad and her won't close, and my father never saw her, yet she died when he was young because my grandfather felt guilty and he remembers him crying. Can I call her local library and ask for Electoral searches or do I have to go down to London for the search?

Kirsten, do you think there is any chance that she left a will? If so, then there would be an entry in the National Probate Calendar which should give the exact date when she died, and when and where probate was granted, and perhaps some other details though I think the entries in the 1960's are not as informative as the earlier ones. Kate.

I am used to london and Paddington and Whitechapel are both in London and are a fair distance from each other. Gwen

So you need to check the electoral roll for sister's address. If Bloomah is still there after the death reg Christine found, then you know that one can't be her. How far off is your dad likely to be with the date? Can't imagine he would be more than two or three years off.....I seem to remember he was a teen when she died? Merry

Point taken. It's just that this Blooma Goldberg person doesn't feel right. I don't think it could be her. I'll look into it. Thank you so much to everyone who replied.

Yes, but depending on what's wrong with you, you might not go into the nearest hospital. Merry

Could've died in hospital. But where she lived with her sister was literally two streets away from The Royal London Hospital. I'm going crazy.

Have contacted United Synagogues, who helped me find her husband and sister's graves. That tells me she must be buried there. She outlived her husband and her sister outlived her.

Multimap would show you that they (Paddington & Whitechapel) may both be in London, but they're not neighbouring areas. There certainly are hospitals in Paddington. Christine

Paddington and Whitechapel are about 4 miles apart. Maybe she died in hospital? Merry

Hi Gwen, Thanks for looking, I think I may have seen that one, she wasn't in the country until after 1901. Bloomah Stuckgold was also her married name.

There is a Bloomah Gold on the 1891 census born in abt 1895 Poland living in whitechapel any relation? Gwen