Genealogy Chat

I've had those already!! Merry

Thanks for all your hard work Merry - I really appreciate everyone taking this on board and coming up with so many suggestions! You all deserve a cup of coffee and a choccie biscuit! Chris

There's an article about Aliases on Genuki (see the bit about copyhold): http://genuki(.)cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonMisc/AliasesDiscriminant.html (remove brackets) Merry

This is what the OPC has online from PR's: Parish Registers Baptisms 1735-1749, 1750-1774, 1775-1786, 1787-1812, 1813-1837 Marriages 1735-1837 Burials 1735-1837 Banns 1754 - 1797 I've looked for Green - Churchill marriages, Daniel's bap without luck. Tried baps of children the sons/daus of daniel and Ann: 14 04 1823 James GREEN son of Daniel & Anne; Gillingham; Labourer 19 06 1831 Hannah CHURCHILL daughter of Daniel & Ann; Gillingham; Labourer Note there is a Hannah Green in their home in 1841. Nightmare!! It might be to do with copyhold tenancy. Though he is recorded as an ag lab rather then a tennant farmer. Merry

Thanks Merry - you're brilliant! Thank goodness THAT name didn't carry on down the family tree!!

Addresses: 1861: (I went back a few sheets!) - Bowridge H Road, Gillingham 1851: No addresses recorded in Gillingham 1841: looks like ''Peasemarsh'', Gillingham. Several families are recorded there. Merry

In 1861 there was no address listed. Will look at the others in a minute. This could be the marriage of Daniel and Ann: Gillingham PR's from Dorset online Parish Clerk: 1821 10-Dec Daniel GREEN otp & Ann MILES otp I can't see a baptism for Daniel (Green or Churchill!) on the baptism transcripts on the same site. This may be Ann's baptism: 20 03 1803 Ann MILES daughter of Gracious & Fanny Flippin' Eck! ''Gracious Miles'' lol! Merry

hiya, always glad to help, dont like it when i cant find anyone!!, just pleased to find them, now you have something else to work with, this churchill name, praps maybe worth looking for a churchill/green marriage i would think it'll be on IGI or hugh wallis site, as they seem to be born early 1800's Julie

Well done Julie - that's them. You should change your name from darksecrets to Bright Star! Chris

hiya merry, they didnt live on church-hill did they??? justa thought julie

Thanks Merry - that def. looks like the right family. I can only assume that perhaps Daniel's wife has Churxchill as a maiden name??? I can't get over how helpful you all are to a newcomer. Thank you so much.

this is them in 1871, (honest) View Record Charles Green abt 1845 Gillingham, Dorset, England Head Portsea Hampshire View Record Elizabeth A Green abt 1868 Landport, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsea Hampshire View Record Mary A Green abt 1845 Landport, Hampshire, England Wife Portsea Hampshire View Record William C Green abt 1870 Landport, Hampshire, England Son Portsea Hampshire now we getting somehwere Julie

And the same people again in 1861: Ann Churchill abt 1804 Gillingham, Dorset, England Wife Gillingham Dorset Charles Churchill abt 1844 Gillingham, Dorset, England Son Gillingham Dorset Daniel Churchill abt 1795 Gillingham, Dorset, England Head Gillingham Dorset Tom Churchill abt 1840 Gillingham, Dorset, England Son Gillingham Dorset Anyone got any ideas on this? Merry

Well, this is very odd!!!!!! Note the names in the 1841 census I posted. I did check the page and they were def called GREEN. Now...............These people, below, are surely the same individuals as before, but they have an additional child, Charles. The surname on the image is def CHURCHILL (maybe they had a premonition about Winston??!) 1851: Ann Churchill abt 1804 Gillingham, Dorset, England Wife Gillingham Dorset Charles Churchill abt 1845 Gillingham, Dorset, England Son Gillingham Dorset Daniel Churchill abt 1794 Gillingham, Dorset, England Head Gillingham Dorset Ezekiel Churchill abt 1833 Gillingham, Dorset, England Son Gillingham Dorset Mary Ann Churchill abt 1827 Gillingham, Dorset, England Daughter Gillingham Dorset Tom Churchill abt 1840 Gillingham, Dorset, England Son Gillingham Dorset Very strange indeed! Merry

Witnesses were Brides parents - Samuel and Hanah Cawdeary Chris

hiya, i'm not too sure about 1871 myself, but am still looking, what was his occupation on m.cert please? also witnesse's to marriage? Julie

Sorry - forgot to answer question! On marriage cert. he gives his occupation as Labourer as is his father Daniel. Thanks for your efforts! Chris

Yup - that's them. I'm not sure about the 1871 info as I have Mary Ann's Birth Cert. and she was born in Portsmouth. However, they seem to have handled the truth somewhat carelessly at times.

This may be to do with it! This is the 1841 census.....I am having trouble localting any of them after this, but maybe this Daniel is your chap's father? 1841: Ann Green abt 1811 Dorset, England Gillingham Dorset Daniel Green abt 1801 Dorset, England Gillingham Dorset Ezekiel Green abt 1835 Dorset, England Gillingham Dorset George Green abt 1831 Dorset, England Gillingham Dorset Hannah Green abt 1833 Dorset, England Gillingham Dorset Tom Green abt 1840 Dorset, England Gillingham Dorset Merry

here they are in 1871 View Record Elizabeth Green abt 1845 Croxton, Leicestershire, England Wife Camberwell Surrey View Record Henry Green abt 1843 Gillingham, Dorset, England Head Camberwell Surrey View Record Sarah A Green abt 1870 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Daughter Camberwell Surrey julie