Genealogy Chat

I offered to find a friends rellies for him but I am amazed to find I cannot find any of the births of the children from one family, am I missing something here have looked on 1837 and ancestry but nothing. In case anyones interested in finding just one of them all surnames Evitt. Charles Duncan 1856 Francis Frederick 1853 Frederick Clifford 1855 Henry William 1857 Lewis Bellitta 1846 Mary 1860 Walter Sims 1848 all born in Camberwell Middlesex I did find the marriages of 2 of them under these names but not the others

Assuming you haven't discounted anything out of the ''right'' area, and also tried different spellings... registration wasn't compulsory till 1875. I have heard estimates of 15% missing. Two of mine don't appear to be registered, from 1841 & 1844. They married each other LOL

hi have tried all sorts of spelling and leaving out the surname just searching on first names , seems strange because they were a very wealthy family I cannot think why they would not register the births of all the children but you do make some sense as there isnt just one missing, maybe you are right.I wondered if maybe the children were not the husbands and he took them on .

Val, Looks like you got these names from the 1861 census. Have you tried to find them in another and see what the surname is then? Rose

hi yes have found them on every census right from the 1841 to 1901 its spelt right

Before compulsory registration was introduced, many families simply didn't register births; in many cases, they couldn't afford it. I thought Camberwell was Surrey................. Reg

they are a very wealthy family listed as Gentlemen and belonging to the Stock Exchange I have looked in Surrey and Middlesex because thats what it says on the census Camberwell Staines Middlesex

Is this the family in 1881? Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Frederick EVITTS Head W Male 63 Walworth, Surrey, England Stock Jobber Ellen EVITTS Daughter U Female 31 Dulwich, Surrey, England Charles D. EVITTS Son U Male 26 Camberwell, Surrey, England Proffessor Of Music Harry W. EVITTS Son U Male 24 Camberwell, Surrey, England Accountant Amy EVITTS Daughter U Female 21 Staines, Middlesex, England Annie WEBB Servant U Female 21 Gloucester, England General Servant Domestic Rose

there are some registrations for EVITT children in Camberwell in the 1840s. All have rather posh-sounding first names. Do you know if these are relatives?

sorry yes thats them I forgot about the children born later ,

where did you find them Vicky ???

I just did a quick search on FreeBMD - sometimes I find the results are easier to follow than the Ancestry listings. They are supposed to use the same database. Its a bit slow tonight - I was trying a search for soundalikes but its timed out. Looks like Camberwell has been transcribed though. have you tried looking for baptisms - if none of these births are registered that might be your next best bet.

Here are some date clues: The Times 6th Oct 1853: On the 4th inst at Dulwich Surrey, Mrs Frederick Evitt, of a son. The Times 6th Feb 1855 On the 28th ult at Denmark Hill, Mrs Frederick Evitt, of a son. Merry

thanks for that Vicky didnt look on there I would have thought I would find them on 1837 I looked 4 years either side it has cost me a fortune

Merry once again you amaze me , where did you find that he is the one son we have really been searching for, I am totally amazed by you one day I will be as good you'll see. Thanks so much

I know that when civil reg was first introduced some people were very much against it for various reasons. One was the infringement of civil liberties (government poking their nose into private business) and also the idea that a child is named before God at baptism and this should be sufficient. The well-to-do would be quite happy to ignore the registrar if they were against registration in principal. There are some very vociferous letters printed in The Times newspaper to this effect! Merry

sorry valerie have looked but can't find anything Nicola

Merry that is something else I have learned I am not too hot on all this legal stuff as you may have gathered thanks a lot glad you are on here how is the Tooth by the way ???

thanks Nichola for trying ,but look what Merry found in The Times isnt she wonderful ?????

Yep valarie, have often wondered how she does it, I am useless at this sort of stuff lol Nicola