Genealogy Chat

I am trying to untangle this from the 1851 Census. Elizabeth Rushforth is my GGGmother. The Aldersons are confusing me.

Elizabeth Rushforth (cant read occupation) abt 1832 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Barnsley Yorkshire Hannah Rushforth abt 1786 ??, Yorkshire, England Wife Barnsley Yorkshire John Rushforth (Stone Mason) abt 1785 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Head Barnsley Yorkshire Margaret Alderson abt 1850 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Barnsley Yorkshire Martha Alderson abt 1829 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Daughter (Married) Barnsley Yorkshire Thomas Alderson abt 1839 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Grandson Barnsley Yorkshire William Alderson abt 1848 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Grandson Barnsley Yorkshire I can't find the Marriage of Martha to an Alderson, and she couldn't be the mother of Thomas as she would have been just 10yo.

very poor copy he's a something weaver and Hannah a weavers wife, still trying to read the rest! Linda

It looks to me that John's occupation is LINEN WEAVER, Hannah is Weaver's wife and Elizabeth is weaver's daughter - but isn't there a generation missing in the middle? Jim

>>> John Alderson 1845 Jul-Aug-Sep Ecclesfield Yorkshire - West Riding John Hague 1845 Jul-Aug-Sep Ecclesfield Yorkshire - West Riding Henry Jubb 1845 Jul-Aug-Sep Ecclesfield Yorkshire - West Riding James Mitchell 1845 Jul-Aug-Sep Ecclesfield Yorkshire - West Riding Margaret Prestige 1845 Jul-Aug-Sep Ecclesfield Yorkshire - West Riding >>>>Martha Rushforth 1845 Jul-Aug-Sep Ecclesfield Yorkshire - West Riding Hannah Russon 1845 Jul-Aug-Sep Ecclesfield Yorkshire - West Riding Elizabeth Wildsmith 1845 Jul-Aug-Sep Ecclesfield Yorkshire - West Riding think they have her dob wrong Linda

I have Elizabeth's marriage cert and her father is John a Weaver. Thomas Alderson is down as Grandson, born 1839. Possibly that is a wrong date and should be 1849?

As Thomas's age is correct......his occ is miner........perhaps he was the son of Martha's husband from a previous marriage. Do you have any info about the husband? The other option is that Thomas's surname was not Alderson.............and the ditto marks were inaccurate Reg

I know nothing at all about the Aldersons.. I didn't know about Martha until we checked the 1851.

1861................ Name: John Alderson Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Cockerton, Durham, England Civil parish: Barnsley Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Barnsley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Barnsley ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 39 Household Members: Name Age George Alderson 3 Mo John Alderson 43 John Alderson 8 Margaret Alderson 10 Martha Alderson 33 Mary Ann Alderson 2 William Alderson 14 Reg

Jim, do you think the marriage I found her could be her? Linda

Martha's husband in 1851...........listed as 'married' Name: John Alderson Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Cockington, Durham, England Civil parish: Barnsley Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Barnsley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Barnsley ED, institution, or vessel: 3q Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 78 Household Members: Name Age John Alderson 34 John Parkins 64 Ellener Sykes 20 John Sykes 26 Reg

Linda, It does look very likely. That Thomas is the bugbear. A marriage in 1845 at the age of 16 is unusual but not impossible with children born in 1848 and 1850.

Probably John Alderson in 1841..........no Thomas John Alderson abt 1818 Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Emma Hodgson abt 1838 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Jesse Hodgson abt 1841 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Rachael Hodgson abt 1819 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire View Record Joseph Jenwick abt 1820 Barnsley Yorkshire View Record James Lowe abt 1828 Yorkshire, England Barnsley Yorkshire Have you considered the other scenario I suggested? Reg

Hi Reg, Thanks for the suggestion, it is always possible. I think I need to apply for their Marriage Cert now that we have a date for it. thanks.

Hi Grandpa Jim There is a possible marriage on FreeBDM for Martha in Ecclesfield in Sep Qtr 1845 22 / 119. Hope that this helps, Regards Lyn Sorry, just reread this thread & I guess that is the one Linda sent you.

This first entry is a possibility if the 1851 had trhe surname wrong. Births Sep 1838 RUSHFORTH Thomas Ecclesfield 22 122 RUSHFORTH Thomas Leeds 23 409 Births Dec 1839 Rushforth Thomas Bradford 23 87 Rushforth Thomas Bradford 23 123

Do you have any comments about the Alderson info? Reg

Hi Reg, Thanks for your help. It certainly is indicating that Martha married John Alderson and had several children. I must assume, for the present, that Thomas was a Rushforth and the brother of Martha and Elizabeth. It will have to wait until I have spare cash to buy the certificates. Thanks again, Jim

The image quite clearly has Thomas as Grandson..........and I would think that to be correct. He is unlikely to be the son of John and Hannah.........their ages rather preclude that possibility. Reg

He's even less likely to be Martha's son as she would have only been 10. So, something must be wrong. Maybe Thomas's age. If John was previously married I will find out from the Marriage Cert.