Genealogy Chat

I've had a quick look but can't see any William Simmonds (or Simmons) in Winchester. None of the ones in Hampshire have the occupation of coalman/merchant either. However his occupation may well have changed from the time of Charles' birth to the time of his marriage. Its difficult for you but don't give up. Sorry I have to get to bed now - early start tomorrow! Anne

And even if he WAS on the census, he couldn't have been on his own...how would the enumerator have known his name? OC

hi charles was born in winchester . william was a coalman . thankyou jackie

So he isn't on the census Jackie, he was born after it was taken. Perhaps we can find his father with the clue of his occupation. Where in the country was Charles born? Anne

charles henry simmonds was born on the 26 april 1901 . i have found him . with some help . it also said on his marriage certicate .that his father was william simmonds . thank you jackie

Jackie There are about 6 Charles Simmonds born about 1900 in the 1901 census. How do you know which one is your grandfather? And are you sure there's no-one else at the address with him? And are you sure he was born before the 1901 census was taken?

how do i go about finding my grandfathers family .he was born in 1901. he is listed on the census on his own.. thank you jackie

hi again everyone according to the marriage certificate, my grandfather charles henry simmonds married a ceceily florence farrant September 29th 1928. He was 28 and she was 30. his father was william simmonds, a coal merchant (who we have not found yet either) and her father's name is very difficult to read but looks like luther or something similar and he was a builder. the witnesses to the wedding were Lorna Mary korstright (? not sure of the surname there) and Albert Edward Powell. thank you jackie

When Ceceily married, How old is she? Who is shown as her father and what is his occupation. What are the names of the witnesses? Perhaps if we find the family in 1901. we will get a clearer picture. Gwyn

hi thank you yes that is her . it was my grand dad that registered her death. .the Cecilly has come for her marriage certified . thank you jackie

I wonder if it is worth getting hold of the local newspaper and asking if they have an archive, the death could be in the obituary section. xxhugxx

found these two Florence Winchester A/M.J 1950 (as found above) Florence Farnworth O/N/D 1950 age 67

I can't see a Cissy or a Cecilly Simmonds death for 1950 there IS a Florence Simmonds death for 1950 in Winchester - she was aged 58 ***UPDATE*** nothing obvious coming up under spelling SIMMONS either

It is interesting that she was registered as 'Cissy' this could have been a pet name for her, have you got her death certificate? xxhugxx

Jackie Is it possible that Cecily F Farrant had a middle name of Florence and this is what appears on the gravestone? It may be that she hated Cecily or was just known by her middle name - have you checked the date against the BMD to check that a Florence died, and if so, do you have the cert - who registered the death and would they have known that she was really Cecily not Florence? Regards Looby

hi ceceily f farrant was my grandads first wife.he was married twice. i have got all that info . it is just his first wife that i can not find .the deed that i have got is the right to burial .so i email .winchester and thay told me who was in the grave . . my grandad was charles h simmonds .married ceceily f farrant in 1928 devon .they had a daughter in 1931 . thank you jackie

Taking another look at your first message. Are the people on the marriage cert. the known parents of your mother / father? Are you sure of your parent's parents' names because it is THEIR marriage cert. that you need. How does Florence fit in to the above situation please? You may be looking at 2 different women and that's why it doesn't all fit. Gwyn

Could this be her Oct/Nov/Dec Q 1897 Cissy Farrant born Risbridge 4a 759

What was your grandmother's name? Could grandfather's 1st wife have died ( or divorced) and he married again. Can you clarify... deed for her grave... please? Do you KNOW that relates to your grandfather's family? Gwyn

hi, yes i have my grandads certificate the conflicting info i have is he married a ceceily f farrant i know they got married in 1928 in plympton other info is deed for her grave but it states it is a Florence. A. Simmons which was her married name she died in hampshire in 1950,if i go by this certificate it mean she should have been born in 1898 in devon.