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this is a good tip Merry and no charge either !!!!!!

Whoops, forgot about formatting! In 1881 there are a lot of spelling mistakes in the transcribed names of Civil Parishes. eg - If you look for people living at Hammersmith, you will find.......NONE at all! But if you change the spelling of Hammersmith to HaRmmersmith you will find 72,888 people! Here's the list of those I've noticed so far: Budewell (Bridewell) 527 Ciucolus Seur (Lincolns Inn lol) 25 Harmmersmith (Hammersmith) 72,888 Islinston (Islington) 6,215 Kentington (Kensington) 1,290 Linchouse (Limehouse) 20,567 Marlebone (Marylebone) 22,126 St George Hannover Square (Hanover) 26,720 St George in the Earl (East) 1,244 St Lakes (St Lukes) 7,816 St Mary Bolington (Islington) 1,394 St Pancreas (lol!! Pancras) 843 St Martin Ventry (Vintry) 554 White Chapel (should be one word!) 992 Total 163,201 Also many of the Civil Parishes that have a saints name have more than one set of records - one for singular and the other plural, such as St George Hanover Square as well as St Georges Hanover Square. I've only looked at London........If you find any more, please post! Thanks Merry

The first 1,000+ records for HaRmmersmith on Ancestry appear to be untranscribed (ie no names, ages, or places of birth transcribed), but on viewing a few of the pages, it's NOT because they were illegible! Merry (Val....I didn't realise you are psychic!)

In 1881 there is a county called Miscellaneous. This contains 1,245 peoples records. There are Vessels where the ship name wasn't filled in, or that page is missing/illegible and also many pages from numerous Workhouses and other intututions around the country where the name of the institution has gone missing! Merry

InTUTUtions? Are there any ballet dancers in there? Lol

One of my ancestor's brothers is in the workhouse in Hammersmith in 1881 and also listed at home in Hammersmith. On the same census sheet another nonexistent brother is listed and all the children of the family have the birthplace of the Minories in the East End, even though I know they were all born in Ireland. I don't know what was going on in Hammersmith but I suspect the enumerators met up in the Greyhound before going to knock on doors.

lol Grampa! That was a typo!! I'm leaving it! Paul.....I take it you mean the workhouse at HaRmmersmith, not Hammersmith?!!I Also there is a ship in Postsmouth dock (from memory) with lots and lots of men on it, who are all also listed at their homes too!! Merry

how did that happen Merry how spooky,

I usually put in only the first 3 letters of the name of the civil parish, followed by an asterisk, and that will allow for any spelling mistakes except in the first 3 letters. I usually do the same for the county name as well, as I don't really trust ancestry to get that right either. Kate.

Kate.....I agree, so do I, but just thought I would point out what gross errors there are! I can accept the transcriptions of birth places being mis-spelled, but to mistranscribe the Civil Parish name for the whole enumeration district (and in the case of HaRmmersmith, many times over) is a disgrace!!! Val.......don't worry......you replied to my original post which was in the first box.....when I remembered it wasn't formatted, I shifted it down, by which time you have already posted!!! lol Merry

There are a lot of gender mistranscriptions as well. Just try searching for Sarah and Male, or see how many people there are with Father's Given Name as Sarah! Considering that the image has the age in different columns for different genders it is hardly a problem with reading the handwriting!

Although this is a bit off-thread, it is relevant to Merry's findings in a way! ALWAYS look at the image for the 1881 - do NOT trust the transcriptions. I found a distant branch of my family on LDS 1881. Head was a Gentleman Farmer and I knew from other research that he was a local big wig. At home with him in 1881, were his wife, a Gentleman Farmer's wife (LOL) and ten adult, unmarried children. They had rather curious jobs I thought - the oldest male, described as brother to the Head (but 45 years younger) was a ladies milliner. One of the daughters was a Farmer. Another a washerwoman, another a charwoman, another a pauper. I thought this very odd and attempted to find their baptisms - nothing. Eventually it niggled me so much that I asked on here for a copy of the image. Ha! The brother (the hat maker) was described as 'OTHER - kinsman' not brother, in the relationship column. All the following entries had 'do' (for ditto) and the stupid transcriber thought this was short for daughter! All the occupations had slipped down a line and two even had different surnames to the head of the family! The penny dropped - he was the local Overseer for the Poor and had taken in various of his kinsmen, giving them a roof over their heads and sending them out to work. He had only one child of his own and that was the daughter described as a Farmer. OC

Next statistic for 1881 County of London: There are 3,842,710 individuals recorded Of these roughly 35,000 people have no name transcribed at all (some, but nowhere near all, are illegible pages or those where one folio has partly covered the following one(s) when being filmed). Another 900+ have first name but no surname. Merry

OC - my rellies were listed on the LDS version with just their names (no age, occupation or place of birth etc) and surprisingly for a very rich couple, they appeared to be living in their gardener's cottage along with the gardener his wife and children and a bunch of other adults. When I eventually saw the page, I found they were recorded in the following household to the gardener, at the ''big house''. They had no servants with them (surprising), but when I looked at the occupation column I found it said, ''Travelling Europe'' lol.....so they shouldn't have been recorded at all and the mystery adults living with the gardener were the servants from the Big House!!! Merry

Anyone know why this would be?? There are 595 people recorded in 1881 as living in the Civil Parish of St Martin Orgur. As I had never heard of it (and nor, it seems, has Genuki) I thought I'd take a look.................. That's odd......all the pages I viewed (just a few at random) showed the civil parish to be St Dionis Backchurch, which I have heard of! Wos goin' on???? Merry

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! St Mary Bolington???? Ever heard of it??? No neither have I - these 1,394 are actually living in St Mary Islington!!!!!! Merry

Even heard of Ciucolus Seur??? Me neither! It's Lincolns Inn!! Merry

I'm beginning to wonder if they have any of it right, Ozi-female-bird! Merry

Thanks for those Merry! I haven't seen such a funny thread for ages! Allie x