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Elle

Elle Report 9 May 2007 22:53

I have limited information on my family. However believe that my Great Grandfather was born in *1885*, and I can find a record on the 1901 & 1891 census to match him. However when I try to find the chain for his parents, I do not find either parent at the right age in the other census records.... Does anyone have any hints / tips or other methods of cross checking data. Please bear in mind I have very limited information. NAME: Arthur Edwards, believe Caerphilly, Wales

Sam

Sam Report 9 May 2007 22:56

Can you give us some names etc? 1835 is very early for a G Grandad to be born. What do you have as fact, proved by certificates? Sam x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 May 2007 22:56

Did he marry? The cert will have his father's name and occupation.......if known. That info should help you to trace the family in early censuses........ If you have found him in 1891/1901, it will tell you his birthplace. Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 May 2007 23:13

The marriage cert is essential....to prove that you have the right person You could waste untold amounts of time and effort following the wrong line unless you have concrete facts to start with......... Reg

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 9 May 2007 23:22

Elle, It doesn't appear the info you have so far is correct. There are no Arthurs born Caerphilly c1885 on any census nor a birth on FreeBMD around that time. Rose

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 May 2007 23:29

When did your grandfather die? Was it after 1969? Reg

Elle

Elle Report 9 May 2007 23:30

Hi Reg & Sam. Sorry for not adding reply but i've not use the chat boards before. From your replies to date, I believe that if I get my grandfathers marriage certificate (Reginald), I can then trace back to his parents (Arthur). I will work on getting the MC for my grandfather. Unfortunately I have limited info and my grandfather is dead.

Elle

Elle Report 9 May 2007 23:31

My granda died in 1991, September in Cardiff.

Elle

Elle Report 9 May 2007 23:33

Oh my word.....this is driving me insane I obviously have spurious info.... Perhaps i'll have some wine.. :O)

Elle

Elle Report 9 May 2007 23:35

Granda - Reginald Arthur Edwards

Elle

Elle Report 9 May 2007 23:39

Reg. Hi - its obvisouly late...hence my mistake. The data you supplied is correct. it was 1999 he died. And yes his mother was Gibbon. You also have the birth correct.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 May 2007 23:41

Only one Reginald Arthur death in Cardiff......but later than you say Name: Reginald Arthur Edwards Birth Date: 19 Feb 1916 Death Registration Month/Year: Sep 1999 Age at death (estimated): 83 Registration district: Cardiff Inferred County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire Register number: A19B Entry Number: 133 This could be his birth............ Name: Reginald A Edwards Year of Registration: 1916 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Mother's Maiden Name: Gibbon DISTRICT: Cardiff (1837-1974) County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire Volume: 11a Page: 821 Reg

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 10 May 2007 00:39

Is this the marriage? Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDWARDS Arthur Cardiff 11a 711 GIBBON Rose Cardiff 11a 711 Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 10 May 2007 00:40

Other siblings: Births Mar 1913 Edwards Violet R Gibbon Cardiff 11a 882 Births Jun 1917 Edwards Wilfred C Gibbon Cardiff 11a 672 Rose

Penny

Penny Report 10 May 2007 06:33

1901- cluching at straws a bit,but maybe some help when you get on further Name: Rose Gibbon Age in 1901: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil parish: Pentyrch Ecclesiastical parish: Pentyrch St Cadoc County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Registration district: Cardiff Sub-registration district: Llandaff ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 77 Household Members: Name Age Rose Gibbon 13 <<<<<<<<<< George T Millward 2 Robert H Millward 5 William B Millward 8 Catherine Slade 33 George Slade 38

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 May 2007 10:19

Now that you have been given the marriage details, you need to obain the cert. It will cost £7.00 if you order it online from www.gro.gov.uk Make sure you you tick the box which asks 'are GRO refs known'? Once you have the cert, you can start an informed search on 1901 census. Reg

Elle

Elle Report 10 May 2007 18:21

Hello Portland Rose - re the marriage I got two possibles...1909 & 1907. Not sure which one. Thx for helping!

Elle

Elle Report 10 May 2007 18:23

Hi Scarlet ribbons - that is the one I had got too, it seems plausible. Thx for helping!

Elle

Elle Report 10 May 2007 18:24

Hi Reg. Thx again for your help, i'll investigate the site you gave me.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 10 May 2007 18:58

Elle, Where's the marriage in 1907? I don't see another marriage for an Arthur Edwards to a spouse called Gibbon. Rose