Genealogy Chat

Big thanks to Andrea and Sue for all their hard work, you have given me so much more info i cant thanks you enough

A last one I think that this will be Thomas' baptism to Thomas and Mary THOMAS WALTER ROBINSON Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 14 MAY 1809 Saint Mary, Lambeth, London, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: THOMAS ROBINSON Family Mother: MARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P006281 1800 - 1822 0254603-0254607 Film 0821156 Film P006281 1800 - 1822 0254603-0254607 Film 0821157

From the National Burial Index Emma Robinson - 1st January, 1850 - aged 2yrs - Ipswich St. Mary at Elms Susanna Robinson - 8th January, 1850 - aged 5yrs - Ipswich St. Mary at Elms

Meanwhile, I am struggling to make the connection between the junior and senior branches, despite the fact that Amelia b 1832 and Sarah b 1817 seem to have swapped families in 1841. It would be good if we could get either Thomas (b 1809) or his wife back to Suffolk - but they are both sure that they were born in London on each census; alternatively Thomas senior and his wife to London for a while - but you have a baptism to Thomas and Ann. I have found a Thomas Walter Robinson marrying a Maria Longwood on the IGI in 1829 in Ipswich - which ties into the baptism of Maria there in 1830. Unfortunately the IGI is silent on a possible christening for Maria Longwood around 1806. Think that I too will call it a day for now on this one - all the best.

Births Name: Emma Robinson Year of Registration: 1848 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar DISTRICT: Ipswich County: Suffolk Volume: 12 Page: 375 ============= Name: Susannah Robinson Year of Registration: 1844 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec DISTRICT: Holborn County: London, Middlesex Volume: 2 Page: 137

Thank you all so much for all your help, it makes me realise how little i know lol. I am now being forcibly evicted from the pc but will try to check back later on.

Deaths Name: Susanna Robinson Year of Registration: 1850 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar DISTRICT: Ipswich County: Suffolk Volume: 12 Page: 276 ============ Name: Emma Robinson Year of Registration: 1849 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec DISTRICT: Ipswich County: Suffolk Volume: 12 Page: 273 (click to see

1881 Name: Maria Kidley Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Gender: Female Where born: Ipswich Tower Civil parish: Camberwell County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 78 Commercial Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Peckham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur Kidley 13 Edward Kidley 15 Frederick Kidley 8 Maria Kidley 42 Walter Kidley 6 William Kidley 46 William J. Kidley 21 RG11; Piece: 681; Folio: 20; Page: 33 ================== Do you see how the same christian names keep cropping up

I think this is definitely the right family. Also found on IGI said to be from Bishop's transcripts for Suffolk all baptised 6 Aug 1848 and all parents Thomas and Maria Sarah, Emma, Susannah and William Henry Walter. So maybe Emma didn't die in 1843 and there should be a Susannah somewhere. These are the children after frederick who of course had been baptised earlier. Amelia and Frederick were baptised together so maybe the parents had them 'done' in job lots - some of mine did Plus Maria baptised 27 Jun 1830 St Mary Towers Ipswich which is a submitted record

This is what i have From IgI some information comes from My Grandfathers Birthday book, some other odd bits from my cousin (manly later gen) and rest from Census ROBINSON, Thomas Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 6 Jan 1808 Christening Date: 25 Jun 1809 Recorded in: Westminster, London, England Collection: St James Father: Thomas Robinson Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1042309 Dates: 1791 - 1816 Did they hav any more children as i have found these which give mothers name ROBINSON, Sarah Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 4 Sep 1837 Christening Date: 6 Aug 1848 Recorded in: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Collection: St Mary at the Elms; BTs Father: Thomas ROBINSON Mother: Maria ROBINSON Source: FHL Film 918666 Dates: 1848 - 1848 ROBINSON, William Henry Walter Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 30 Jul 1842 Christening Date: 6 Aug 1848 Recorded in: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Collection: St Mary at the Elms; BTs Father: Thomas ROBINSON Mother: Maria ROBINSON Source: FHL Film 918666 Dates: 1848 - 1848

IGI for children of Thomas Robinson and Maria in Suffolk for christenings 1835 +/- 20 years brings up the senior family (including Sarah 1817), and a batch of christenings in August 1848 including William Henry Walter. It's going to need some teasing out, because there are two Thomas Robinsons in Ipswich in 1861, born in 1787 and 1789 (although the 1789 one was not born in Ipswich, so this should help to separate them).

Andrea Do you think this is the right family etc?

Nancy What info did you have before today, was it just census stuff or did you have any actual baptisms for any of the children. I did find one for a Maria, daug of Thomas and Maria in 1830 in Ipswich on the IGI

I am trying sue (as my husband would no doubt testify) I just cant work out why I have never come across any Mention of Amelia before

I think Amelia is an extra child for you to add to the family. Just try and digest what is here, its a lot to take in. You still don't sound very convinced.

thank you sue for your patience my head i spinning trying to work out who is who. So as i thought Emma died young but that still leaves Amelia and what about the older Thomas and co in later census? I wish i could get to ispwich and check out parish registers etc but that is not going to happen anytime soon

This is what I think was the family of Thomas W Robinson and Maria Maria 1830 Amelia Mary Ann 1832 Thomas Frederick 1835 Sarah Georgiana 1837 m Edward Burnett Emma (Matilda?) 1840 William Henry Walter 1843 Birth dates approximate and of course there could be others

Because it looks like Emma died in 1843, go back to previous posting.

A possible birth for Emma Name: Emma Matilda Robinson Year of Registration: 1840 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun DISTRICT: Holborn County: London, Middlesex Volume: 2 Page: 125

I have seen that birth record, but no Emma listed on 1851 census an never seen any mention of Amelia.