Genealogy Chat

Hi Donna When you find a site you do not understand just come back here, say which site, say which bits are beyond you. With the gang on this message board you are never alone. In many cases, particularly in the evenings, answers appears it is worth sticking around. Alternatively go and look at a site and come back for the answers. Clive

Nothing for 1818-1819 St Marys Chatham

Donna Google National Archives and the website will come up. on the home page on the right is a search box. Put Stephen Stroud in it then hit search. it finds any doc that has stephen and Stroud in them . some will be irrelevant to you BUT the second one down ' Information relating to document ref no ER10/3/133'. is the one concerning Ann Stroud applying for Parish relief. When you applied for parish relief you had to be from that parish If not a removal order was issued to send you back to the Parish you were born. You would be deemed to qualify in your local parish by a deed of settlement. (google -parish relief,theres loads of info on it ) It would seem the document isnt available online but you can apply for it . click on the Document heading and the next page will give you the name and address of the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust records office

Donna Calm down, breathe, Which Parish record - where are you looking? If in CityArk say which church/year/no. of jpeg thingy file. and details of which one you're trying to work out. Calm. Jill

To Jill, Shirley, Maid of Kent and Clive, Oh my God, I've just had a quick look at one of the Parish records and I cannot understand it all. It's like gobbledigook, a foreign language - I don't stand a chance of even reading the records let alone finding a particular one!? How on earth do you get to understand the language. Is it the case, that I am going to have to employ an archivist on my behalf to have a look for me? Someone help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Donna

Thanks to Clive and Shirley for both coming back to me. Shirley, firstly what is a settlement Order? Secondly, what do you mean put Stephen Stroud into the home page of the National Archives? Where am I doing this - on what site? On my ancestry site? Do excuse my ignorance............. Donna

Shirley Where/how did Arrow come into the settlement quoted? I am unable to comprehend the meaning of the NA quote. Can you help please? CB

Donna i dont know if hes Your Stephen Stroud But on the National Archives website theres a settlement order for Ann Stroud the wife of Stephen Stroud a soldier!! its dated 1821!! put Stephen Stroud in the search box on the home page click search and its the second one down. Shirley

Donna I don't think there is a single site which provides all the answers. If you have an Ancestry membership it's worth really exploring the site and finding the More databases button. In case you are unaware of it the BirthsMarriagesDeaths (BDM) has two main halves. The first is transcriptions and is 'quick search' by computer - watch out for transcription errors. This is only transcribed up to about 1912. The second part is You search. You select say Births first and then a name and date range. You then have to search the entries yourself. The process can be a bit daunting! What I find amazing is the speed at which many of the people on here function. They find whole families whilst I am finding one individual! CB

OHHHH! if his dad was a soldier then more likely he was born in Gillingham rather than Chatham. There is still the Brompton barracks here. i live only about 6 miles from Gillingham/Chatham. If you are going to look at City Ark would suggest you look at the Gillingham records especially Brompton. Shirley

Hi Jill Thank you for your help. I will attempt to do as you suggested. This should be fun! Donna

Hi Heather Yes, I've got a copy of the MC. His father's name was Stephen Stroud and was a soldier. Donna

Hi Shirley,'you are getting the hang of it', the information you have provided me with is correct. It is Charles's family. Thank you. Donna

Hi Clive, I'm sort of new at this stage of my research. Please be patient with me Clive, I am a bit dizzy! I get my information from the ancestry.co.uk site which is great and has been very helpful. Is the Family Search site more informative than the ancestry site? Your second message to me relates to my Charles Stroud. He married an Ann Isaac in 1843. I obtained a copy of their marriage certificate. It states that Charles's father was Stephen Stroud and his occupation was a soldier. Here comes the dizziness again, was there a war going on around that time? Can't locate a Stephen Stroud on the ancestry site. There are very few of them. The rest of the information you gave me about his children namely Charles aged 3, Sarah A aged 5 and Stephen aged 1 is correct and linked. Stephen aged 1 was my Gt, Gt G/father. Thank you for your guidance and advice Clive. Anything else you can think of to help me, just come back to me. Donna

Hi Jennifer Many thanks for that info, I'm going to investigate. Donna

hi by chance I had to search st mary's chatham bap register 1820 today. kept an eye out for your Charles Stroud he was not baptised 1820 at st marys chatham.

If they are a Medway family checkout the City Ark site first - details in an earlier message. A lot of certificates (post 1837) as well as parish records are on line - for free. It's a bit of a clunky site as you need to know which church - or which likely church - and then you end up with a list of jpeg files (or something like jpeg) which are numbered. Then you need to check a few of those to work out roughly what year they are (they don't give a year on the file name). Then you need to go backwards and forwards until you hit the right time span. Takes a little while to get used to it but persevere - once you have mastered it it's a doddle - and there is an awful lot of info on there. Jill

Have you bought his marriage certificate? That would be the way to check his fathers name and occupation.

this possible sarah a birth Births Sep 1845 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STROUD Sarah Ann Warwick 16 512 Thers a marriage too on family search that might be them CHARLES STROUD Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: ANN ISAAC Family Marriage: 02 JUL 1843 Saint Mary, Warwick, Warwick, England GRO ref Marriages Sep 1843 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STROUD Charles Warwick 16 545 ISAAC Ann Warwcik 16 545 Would tie with birth area of Sarah ------------------------------------------------------------- birth Stephen Births Dec 1849 (>99%) STROUD Stephen Warwick 16 543

Is this him? Name: Charles Stroud Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1820 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Chatham, Kent, England Civil parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Duddeston ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 171 Household Members: Name Age Ann Stroud 28 Charles Stroud 31 Charles Stroud 3 Sarah A Stroud 5 Stephen Stroud 1 CB