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thank you

You could do with a look through Parish Registers, an idea of first Baptism (if any there!) might help...

Chris :)

so sorry and thanks for your help found the witten marriage the only marriage I cant find is jemimas to easu nice have got everyone else that's the other jemima married to Hawkins is another daughter certainly they are all coming out of the woodwork now .

(oh, bloomin' ding dong!, at last, I think...lol, looking at below Marriage image, Ancestry, her Father Samuel, occ. Coachsmith, a witness Emily)...

Jemima Witten abt 1856 25 Dec 1876 Charles Norman St Mary, Battersea

Marriages Dec 1847 (>99%)
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NICE Mary Ann Colchester 12 150
WHITTEN Samuel Colchester 12 150


Birth
WITTEN, JEMIMA (NICE)
GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in ST LUKE CHELSEA Volume 01A Page 145


Birth
WITTEN, EMILY (NICE)
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in ST LUKE CHELSEA Volume 01A Page 162


(ties in with 1881, Mary Ann Witten with Sarah Best. Monteirs Villas, 2, Barry Road, Camberwell, her husband Samuel not Leonard!, as given on FMP)

Chris :)

(been annoying me all morning, this!)

(although Esau Nice/Jemima (could be variants!) Marriage not found!)

amazing thank you so much

you need to 'sort' Willer (or whatever!) family, will look further later, have to go at present)

Chris :)

Marriages Dec 1846 (>99%)
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Hawkins William John W London 2 283
Nice Jemima W London 2 283

(above image on Ancestry, also had Father Esau. occ. Farmer)

(couple1851 Cadogan Street, Saint Luke Chelsea, Chelsea)


Marriages Jun 1841 (>99%)
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NICE Jane Woodbridge 12 753
PLANT Samuel Woodbridge 12 753

(and Jemima Nice before her Marriage with above couple 1841 at High Street Walton, Walton, Woodbridge, Suffolk)

Not thinking that is him somehow!, there are a few from Suffolk also, not far over the border...

You would need to see Lexden (if related) Parish Registers from Seax, to go further with Esau and family.


Death
NICE, ESAN 64
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in COLCHESTER UNION Volume 12 Page 43


Deaths Mar 1845 (>99%)
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NICE Esau Colchester 12 43


(although if below is her from 1841?)

Death
NICE, JEMIMA 69
GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in ST LUKE CHELSEA Volume 01A Page 129


(below, same address as Thomas gives on Marriage Cert.!)

1861 (Find My Past)
Samuel Willer Head Married Male 30 1831 Coachering (Coachspring) Maker Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Mary A Willer Wife - Female 29 1832 - Colchester, Essex, England
Mary A Willer Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Colchester, Essex, England
Sarah Willer Daughter - Female 9 1852 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Samuel Willer Son - Male 7 1854 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Emily Willer Daughter - Female 6 1855 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Jemima Willer Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Eliza Willer Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England
John Willer Son - Male 1 1860 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Jemima Nice Mother In Law Widow Female 64 1797 Independent London (Lexden on image) Essex, England
House number 50
Street College Street
Parish Chelsea


Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 (Find My Past)

First name(s) Esau
Last name Nice
Baptism year 1784
Relationship Son
County Suffolk
Place Groton
Mother's first name(s) Susan
Father's first name(s) Edward
Baptism date 21 Sep 1784
Parish St Bartholomew

Chris :)

(too many 'Nice' people about on Census!, and Farm Bailiffs)

so do you think he may have gone by another name of esau? as I keep coming across that 1841 census ?

Thomas -Thomas henrys father was a baliff if that helps

thank you so much everyone for your help its greatly apprieciated

Just popped in to put the Seax details up for Heather and see you have beaten me to it Chris.

You asked where Heather got Stanway from. Thomas gives it as his birthplace in a later census (1871?). The other place mentioned, Lexden, is in roughly the same area.

They would have been villages in Thomas Nice's day but Stanway and Lexden at least have been subsumed into Colchester now.

(for 1851 posted above, although Thomas Best a Greengrocer, on below occ. Carpenter)

Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%)
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Best Thomas Kensington 3 271
Gilson Sarah Kensington 3 271

(above image on Ancestry, Sarah a Widow, her Father Esau Nice (looks like?) occ. Farmer)

Chris :)

Marriages Sep 1842 (>99%)
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GILSON John Walter Colchester 12 99
NICE Sarah Colchester 12 99


(as below, with Thomas?)

1841 (Find My Past)
Esau Nice Male 55 1786 (ag. Lab)
Jemima Nice Female 45 1796 Essex, England
Edward Nice Male 14 1827 Essex, England
Mary Nice Female 12 1829 Essex, England
Thomas Nice Male 8 1833 Essex, England
Parish or township Lexden
Town Colchester
County Essex
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 344
Book number 9
Folio number 48
Page number 10


(and below for him 1861, same address Marlborough Road, as Thomas and Sarah Best)
Thomas Nice - Unmarried Male 22 1839 Greengrocer Servant Colchester, Essex, England

Stanway is a village and civil parish in Essex, England located near Colchester and within Colchester Borough.

(above info. from google)

Chris :)

Where did you get Stanway from?...


(Essex Parish Registers on below)

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Edits (for Baptism posted earlier)

Marks Tey is a large village and electoral ward in Essex, England located six miles west of Colchester.


Edits (1871 Reference
Nice Emma 1836 England, Wales & Scotland Census St George Hanover Square, London)

(Thomas occ. Furniture Porter, on 1865 Marriage (Ancestry) occ. Upholsterer)

yep just found that one thank you as now I know a bit more about Essex

Whoops, sorry malyon, you beat me to it.

EDIT . Have to go out now. Good luck with the search.

There seem to be a few Thomas Nice born in Essex. In the 1851 census there is a Thomas Nice visiting in St Luke's, Chelsea. He gives his birthplace as Colchester. Stanway is part of Colchester. He is aged 16 so a birth around 1835.

Sorry, I can't easily do a copy and paste as I am on an iPad.

thank you

this could be Thomas in 1851

Event Place
Saint Luke Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Registration District
Chelsea
Residence Note
Marlborough Road
Gender
Male
Age
16
Marital Status
Unmarried
Relationship to Head of Household
Visitor
Birth Year (Estimated)
1835
Birthplace
Colchester, Essex
Page Number
81
Registration Number
HO107
Piece/Folio
1474 / 231
Affiliate Record Type
Household
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Thomas Best
Head
M
21
East Horsley, Surrey
Sarah Best
Wife
F
26
Colchester, Essex
Thomas Nice
Visitor
M
16
Colchester, Essex

yep that's the one

Deaths Dec 1873   (>99%)

NICE
 Thomas Henry
 38
 Chelsea
 1a
207

makes him born about 1835