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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Jun 2015 18:44

Re the Hull History Centre

I would add that Ribbonstream's response to being asked "why Hull History Centre" was that "a colleague at work" had used them as a local resource and suggested they be added to the list.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Jun 2015 18:53

The thing is, Candidiasia, the post I linked to:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=722913.0

(posted at rootschat by someone named Candidiasia, either the biggest coincidence in the world or you)

actually reads like an academic assignment:

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Hi,
I am a distance learner with Aberystwyth University.
I am currently doing the module Information Retrieval
The assignment is 'compare and contrast information retrieval systems'
The group I have chose for this is Genealogy researchers.
I have to select two different Information Retrieval Systems suitable for the user group.
Make sure:
the systems are different enough so that you have material to discuss and compare
You may draw from the following broad categories:
Internet search engine (do not select Google)
Metasearch engine
Internet directory
Subject gateway or portal
Library OPAC (e.g Voygaer)
A specific on-line database
A social tagging based IR system
I have chose Ancestry as the specific online database but am wondering what I else I can use.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this.
Many thanks
Candis

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(the terms of reference themselves are pretty much incomprehensible to anyone not involved in that field of study, 'Information Retrieval', myself included)

but then, separately, we have the posts that Sylvia has reproduced several times, that were placed at several different sites, under several different usernames, including *yours* here at genesreunited, and all contain exactly the same words, and are signed exactly the same: RS

two of those usernames, Divergent and Ribbonstream, have admitted to being the same person, and to be posting on behalf of a prospective genealogical services company

you post **the exact same thing** here - right down to the 'RS' signature (that you have deleted) and spelling errors - not 'similar', *identical* - and claim to know nothing about the others

and really, the idea that two other people in your course would pick the exact same topic of study and ask the exact same misspelt questions ...

this is just silly

why do you not just tell us what is going on, and let people decide for themselves whether to answer your questions once they know what you are going to do with the answers?

Candidiasia

Candidiasia Report 15 Jun 2015 19:27

Yes the questions were suggested after I spoke to my Course Advisor, I was asked to research and get a general feeling for what people thought of these two.

After having looking at Hull History Centre On-line I felt it was not sufficient to compare and contrast Ancestry with that.

I had never heard of GENUKI till I spoke to a cousin overseas who suggested it. Hence why I asked about it.

Candis

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Jun 2015 20:21

I do apologise most sincerely to Candidiasia .........


...... it seems that I did indeed mis-interpret what she is saying as being a sign that she was mis-leading us as to the purpose of her questions, especially the ones on the June 2 post .......


but there still remains the fact that there is one other person asking exactly the same questions on other sites, and that person has admitted to doing it under instructions from work


May I suggest that you contact your Advisor, and present them with the problem that has been identified ........

....... that there are two people asking identical questions with one doing it for purposes that were not truthful, and that indeed was doing for what could be considered as "remuneration". That person used the site names Divergent and Ribbonscream.

I do not know if one participant in the long distance course is supposed to do research that is also being undertaken by another participant, or whether course research topics are supposed to be individual.

Your Course Advisor should also be made aware that many of the people who help on these sites for free and out of goodwill prefer to be told the truth, and she / he should so advise any future students intending to do similar studies.


There is also the problem that the questions asked in those posts of June 2 and 3 were not exactly well thought out ................ certainly not produced by anyone who really knew about genealogical research.



edited ca 10:00 pm to correct spelling of Ribbonscream

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Jun 2015 20:44

well, here's a tip Candidiasia that may help

do a search at FreeBMD for whatever you like

in the search results, there will be a clickable registration district name

click on it and another window will open

it will say that details about the registration district are available 'here'

I use those links all the time to find out what little hamlets and crossroads are covered by a registration district name

the 'here' takes you to GENUKI's description of the district

here's an example:

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/strand.html

and within that page there are links you can use to navigate to other info at GENUKI

its main contents page is

http://www.genuki.org.uk/contents/

but - and here is my answer to your question! - I confess I seldom (read: never) use it myself, largely because I don't find it especially (read: at all) user-friendly and I have never really figured out what I can expect to find there, except for those links from freebmd

Joy

Joy Report 15 Jun 2015 22:15

By Genuki do you mean http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/ ?
(This is one of the sites in my family history folder in bookmarks on my computer.)
The site is maintained by Brian Randell and http://www.genuki.org.uk/org/#About gives information about it.

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 15 Jun 2015 22:25

The value you get from GENUKI depends on which county your ancestors came from. The site is run by volunteers and some are far better than others. Many of the counties simply refer you to local history archives or other off-line records, but some are excellent.

I am fortunate in that one line of my ancestors came from a small village in Derbyshire, and one of the links is to a list of transcriptions of Derbyshire Wills. This has been put together by a few enthusiastic volunteers and for me was a goldmine!!

The only way to find out if the site is any good for you is to try it out.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 Jun 2015 09:57

Candis

Have you looked at the site yourself?

If you had, you'd realise that your questions are, I'm sorry to say, a bit pointless.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 Jun 2015 10:02

If you are doing research towards a degree, you should formulate your own questions, not copy parrot-fashion something posted by someone else.

And do some research yourself into the sites...................any opinions expressed on here by other members would be purely subjective.