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Henry Emery in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:Henry Emery
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:2 Dec 1832
Marriage Place:St. Mary'S, Southampton, Hampshire, England
Spouse: Sarah Bessant
FHL Film Number:1596362
Reference ID:10

Please can anyone tell me if it possible to purchase a copy of the above marriage certificate? Or would there not actually be a marriage certificate as the marriage took place in 1832.

Thankyou.

No there isn't a marriage cert before sept qtr 1837

The best you can see is the parish record of the marriage which won't show fathers names but may help with who the witnesses were

Ok.

Thankyou very much for your reply Shirley.

This marriage is not shown in Southampton St Mary Register MARRIAGES 1754-1837.

Alan.

Hi Alan

Thankyou for your message but I am not sure what you mean.

its definitely there!!

Hampshire Marriages Transcription

First name(s) HENRY
Last name EMERY
Marriage year 1832
Marriage day 2
Marriage month Dec
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name Henry
Groom's last name Emery
Bride's first name Sarah
Bride's last name Bessant
Groom's notes
Bride's notes
Parish Southampton St Mary
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Hi David.

Sorry about that I have now found it. (Two Sarah Bassants married 1832 I looked at the wrong one)

Marriage 2 Dec 1832 Witnesses were George Bessant, Jane Ward.

Alan.

That is great Alan.

Thank-you very much for that added information. I had no idea of any of Sarah's family members so it's great to see that one of the witnesses was a George Bessant.

With a bit of luck I may be able to find some information about him.

Very much appreciated. :-)

Hi again Alan

Sorry to trouble you again but I wonder if you might be able to find further details on this marriage.......

George Bessant in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:George Bessant
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:26 Sep 1831
Marriage Place:Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Spouse: Fanny Moors
FHL Film Number:1041743
Reference ID:371

And.........

Stephen Bessant in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:Stephen Bessant
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:29 Jul 1827
Marriage Place:Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Spouse: Sarah Ann Humby
FHL Film Number:1596325
Reference ID:91 - 92


I will check back on here later.

Thankyou David.

Possible baptisms for the bridegrooms at Millbrook you are interested in:

????

First name(s) STEPHEN
Last name BESANT
Birth year 1802
Baptism year 1802
Baptism day 24
Baptism month Jan
Son or daughter Son
First parent's first name(s) John
Second parent first name(s) Fanny
Parish MILLBROOK
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

First name(s) GEORGE
Last name BEZANT
Birth year 1805
Baptism year 1805
Baptism day 13
Baptism month Jan
Son or daughter Son
First parent's first name(s) John
Second parent first name(s) Fanny
Parish MILLBROOK
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Other Bessants also married at St Marys, like Sarah

First name(s) HENRY
Last name BESSANT
Marriage year 1829
Marriage day 27
Marriage month Sep
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name Henry
Groom's last name Bessant
Bride's first name Harriet
Bride's last name Haysom

First name(s) ANN
Last name BESSANT
Marriage year 1832
Marriage day 15
Marriage month Jan
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name John
Groom's last name Read
Bride's first name Ann
Bride's last name Bessant

First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name BESSANT
Marriage year 1834
Marriage day 17
Marriage month Mar
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name Francis
Groom's last name Harris
Bride's first name Elizabeth
Bride's last name Bessant

First name(s) CHARLES
Last name BESSANT
Marriage year 1836
Marriage day 3
Marriage month Apr
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name Charles
Groom's last name Bessant
Bride's first name Fanny
Bride's last name West

First name(s) HARRIET
Last name BESSANT
Marriage year 1837
Marriage day 30
Marriage month Apr
Place SOUTHAMPTON ST MARY
Groom's first name William Wellington
Groom's last name Chidell
Bride's first name Harriet
Bride's last name Bessant
Groom's notes Widower

Kucinta

I do believe you have confirmed the information I was hoping for.

After receiving the information from Alan that one of the witnesses on Sarah's marriage record was a George Bessant. I went on a search for a George Bessant.

I found the baptism record you found for a George Bezant-------Parents John and Fanny.

I also found the information for the Stephen Bessant (Besant) that you found-------Parents John and Fanny.

I have been researching since 8.15am today and added all the information I found for George and Stephen Bessant to my tree, just in case there was a connection. In the hope that Sarah, George and Stephen are siblings.

I have now found a baptism for Sarah.
Name:Sarah Besant
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:20 Nov 1808
Baptism Place:Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Father:John Besant
Mother: Frances Besant
FHL Film Number:1041742
Reference ID:item 4 p 21

Thank you so much for the information that you found. I now believe that Sarah, George and Stephen were siblings. The children of John and Frances (Fanny) Bessant.

Your time is very much appreciated.

I am on a roll. :-)

Possibly----------

John Bessant in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:John Bessant
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:21 Jun 1800
Marriage Place:Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Spouse: Fanny Heath
FHL Film Number:1596324

As you've probably got already:

First name(s) ANNE
Last name BESANT
Birth year 1811
Baptism year 1811
Baptism day 28
Baptism month Apr
Son or daughter Daughter
First parent's first name(s) John
Second parent first name(s) Frances
Parish MILLBROOK
County Hampshire

Name: Harriet Bessant
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 27 Dec 1818
Christening Place: Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Father's Name: John Bessant
Mother's Name: Fanny Bessant
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02020-4 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 1041742

First name(s) CHARLES
Last name BESANT
Birth year 1814
Baptism year 1814
Baptism day 21
Baptism month Aug
Son or daughter Son
First parent's first name(s) John
Second parent first name(s) Fanny
Parish MILLBROOK
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire baptisms

Maybe Charles, Harriet and Ann might be the ones who married Southampton St Mary?

Wow Kucinta!

No, I didn't have that information already. But I do now.

I will delve further into the information you posted tomorrow and see where that takes me.

Thankyou so very much for your time.

This could be Fanny, with possible daur Ann, who married John Read at Southampton St Mary in 1832 as posted earlier:


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Millbrook, Stoneham, South, Hampshire, England

Fanny Besent Female 63 1778 -
Ann Read Female 30 1811 -
Elizabeth Read Female 1 1840

Both women are washerwomen. However the jarring note is that all three are down as NOT born in county.

Fanny on 1851? if so, born in Hampshire this time (on image is says Hursley)

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Waterloo Building's, Milbrook, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England

Joseph Dawkins Head Married Male 30 1821 Sawyer Hampshire, England
Eliza Dawkins Wife Married Female 33 1818 - Winchester, Hampshire, England
Sarrah Dawkins Daughter - Female 6 1845 - Hampshire, England
Agnes Dawkins Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Hampshire, England
Fanny Beasant Lodger Widow Female 72 1779 Pauper Hampshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

EDIT: If you are correct that Fanny's maiden name was Haeth, this baptism would tie in with her birthplace on the 1851 census:


Hampshire baptisms Transcription

First name(s) FANNY
Last name HEATH
Birth year 1780
Baptism year 1780
Baptism day 15
Baptism month May
Son or daughter Daughter
First parent's first name(s) John
Second parent first name(s) Sarah
Parish HURSLEY
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Possible death for John?

First name(s) JOHN
Last name BESSANT
Age 44
Birth year 1779
Death year 1823
Death day 01
Death month May
Burial year 1823
Parish Millbrook
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Possible death for Fanny?

Millbrook comes under South Stoneham reg district.

Deaths Jun 1860 Bessant Fanny S.Stoneham 2c 39

or possibly:

Deaths Dec 1852
Besant Fanny S Hampton 2c 5
Bessant Fanny S Hampton 2c 7

Is this your Sarah Emery nee Bessant in census 1851?


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Winchester Street, Botley, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England


Sarah Emery Head Widow Female 42 1809 Pauper F Laborer Wife Millbrook, Hampshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Alfred Emery Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Laborer Botley, Hampshire, England
Emma Emery Daughter - Female 13 1838 At Home Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England
William Emery Son - Male 5 1846 Scholar Botley, Hampshire, England
John Dear Visitor Unmarried Male 22 1829 Laborer Botley, Hampshire, England

and in 1841, living in the same street?

(ages of over 15s usually rounded down to nearest five years in the 1841)

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Winchester Street, Botley, North West (Part), Stoneham, South, Hampshire, England

Henry Emery Male 45 1796 Hampshire, England ag lab
Sarah Emery Female 30 1811 Hampshire, England
Alfred Emery Male 7 1834 Hampshire, England
Henry Emery Male 6 1835 Hampshire, England
Emma Emery Female 4 1837 Hampshire, England
Lydia Emery Female 80 1761 Hampshire, England
George Gosling Male 25 1816 Hampshire, England ag lab

Still living in Winchester Street in 1871:


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Winchester Street, Botley, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England

Sarah Bessant Emery Head - Female 62 1809 - Hampshire, England

Image says born Millbrook, widow, formerly launderess.

I guess you probably had the census stuff already, hence your interest in MIllbrook born Bessants?