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Jane

Jane Report 3 Nov 2012 15:51

Not quite sure if this is right board to post -have tried looking up my grandmother again Ethel Gertrude Gumley who was born in 1888 in Peterborough-and have found her in 1901 census -it also says on my tree she is on the 1891 census and i have seen this before -but it now keeps saying no records available ---am interesred to find out why her mum was blind ---but i cant seem to access the records I had once viewed thanks-any suggesttions 28/12/2012 great grandfather appears to have been in prison in 1901-is there anyway of finding out why ? please

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Nov 2012 16:03

Hello Jane, I've tried this site, Ancestry & FMP and the only census I can find her in is the 1911 ...

WEBB, Anne Head Widow F 69 1842 Brentford Middlesex
WEBB, Sidney Albert Son Married M 39 1872 Builder And House Decorator Hammersmith London
WEBB, Barbara Daughter In Law Married F 38 1873 Croydon Surrey
WEBB, Arthur Stanley Son Single M 27 1884 Cashier Hammersmith London
GUMLEY, Ethel Gertrude Servant Single F 22 1889 General Servant Domestic Peterborough Yorkshire

RG number: RG14 Piece: 250
Reference: RG14PN250 RG78PN8 RD3 SD2 ED24 SN232

Registration District: Fulham
Sub District: South Hammersmith
Enumeration District: 24
Parish: Hammersmith

Address: 45 Cambridge Road Hammersmith County: London

Who were her parents & siblings

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Nov 2012 16:03

Not sure which site you using would guess maybe genes??

will have a look on FMP

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Nov 2012 16:04

what were her parents names?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Nov 2012 16:05

Name: Ethel Gertrude Gumley
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1889
Registration district: Peterborough
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 250

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Nov 2012 16:08

maybe you picked up this one
1901 England Census about Ethel Quinley
Name: Ethel Quinley
[Ethel Gumley]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Emma Quinley
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Peterborough Within St John the Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 1462
Folio: 133
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Quinley 30 widow
Rose Quinley 8
Ethel Quinley 1
Fredrick Todd 19

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1462; Folio: 133; Page: 5.



age 10 years out

Jane

Jane Report 3 Nov 2012 16:10

Thankyou-her parents name were George and Emma-and I have viewed on the 1891 census but cant seem to access it now -am only looking on genes reunited-no am still paying month by month-----Ican access the 1901 and 1911 censue so am bit confused

Andrew

Andrew Report 3 Nov 2012 16:25

1891 England Census
about Ethel G Grumley
Name: Ethel G Grumley
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Grumley
Mother's name: Emma Grumley
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Peterborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1227
Folio: 68
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
George Grumley 23
Emma Grumley 24
Ethel G Grumley 2


Andy

Jane

Jane Report 3 Nov 2012 16:31

Oh thanks so may be grumley not gumley-thats helpful thanks

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Nov 2012 17:14

Her mother is not listed as being blind on the 91 census.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Nov 2012 17:38

Believe this is her in 1901:

1901 England Census
about Ethel Gertrude Grumley Name: Ethel Gertrude Grumley
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Emma Grumley
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Peterborough Within St John the Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St John the Baptist
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Piece: 1461
Folio: 95
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Grumley 35
Ethel Gertrude Grumley 12

Emma is blind on this census and it says how many years she has been so but I can't make out the number. (10 years?)


Jane

Jane Report 3 Nov 2012 18:16

thankyou-am wondering if can find out reason for her being blind

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Nov 2012 18:52

This was all on your previous thread:

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1298938

K

K Report 3 Nov 2012 19:05

Looks like her father was in prison in 1901

Name: George Gomley
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Chesterton
Ecclesiastical parish: Chesterton St Luke
Town: Chesterton
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Chesterton
Sub-registration district: Fulbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 1524
Folio: 128
Page Number: 2

Jane

Jane Report 3 Nov 2012 23:23

thats interesting-I didnt know her at all but my mother said she was slightly introverted character

Jane

Jane Report 4 Nov 2012 09:03

where can i find out why he was in prison-any suggesttions? thanks

Jane

Jane Report 27 Dec 2012 17:37

would i be able to find out why my great granfather was in prison-any ideas on where i should enquire thankyou

Jane

Jane Report 10 Feb 2013 12:13

anyone any ideas on the prison bit thanks

Kim Annette

Kim Annette Report 10 Feb 2013 12:38

jane.. maybe try newspapers of the time..

Jane

Jane Report 10 Feb 2013 12:45

ok thanks so there isnt a site or anyhting like that that could help