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Looking for ancestor of Patrick Dobbins b1846 Tullamore, Kings County, Ireland d1920 in Townsville, Queensland.
Patrick m Ellen Tobin b? d1887 and had two girls Catherine & Mary. In 1893 he married Emily Martha Agombar b1866 in London d1945. They had three children Violet Louisa b1894, Theresa May b1897 & John b1899 d1901

One of his marriage certs should name his father .if known.

Have you tried Family Search site?

Did he marry both times in Australia as not picking up any marriages

1891 census transcription details for: 10, Sherriff Road, Hampstead

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 112
Folio: 79
Page: 70
Reg. District: Hampstead
Sub District: Hampstead
Parish: Hampstead
Enum. District: 31
Ecclesiastical District: St James
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 10, Sherriff Road, Hampstead
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BADER, John N Head Married M 36 1855 Stock Jobber
Briston, London
BADER, Florence M Wife Married F 30 1861
Euston, London
TREVOR, Josephine M Visitor Single F 24 1867
Oxford
AGOMBAR, Emily M Servant F 24 1867 General Domestic Servant
Islington, London >>>>>>>>>>



1881

1881 census transcription details for: 4, Eliza Terrace High Road, Tottenham

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 1386
Folio: 28
Page: 49
Reg. District: Edmonton
Sub District: Tottenham
Parish: Tottenham
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Eliza Terrace High Road, Tottenham
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DEE, Thomas Head Married M 25 1856 Oil And Station Shop
Nine Elms, Surrey
DEE, Eliza Wife Married F 24 1857
Marylebone, Middlesex
DEE, Percy Reginald Son Single M 2 1879
Clapton, Middlesex
DEE, Ethel Maud Daughter Single F 1 1880
Hackney, Middlesex
THOMPSON, Edward H J Boarder Single M 14 1867 Shop Boy
Islington, Middlesex
AGOMBA, Emily M Servant Single F 15 1866 Domestic Servant
Hackney, Middlesex>>>>>>>>>>>

AHH here she is going to Australia


name: Emily M AGOMBAR
Date of departure: 23 June 1891
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Bowen, Australia
Passenger destination: Bowen, Australia

Date of Birth: 1867 (calculated from age)
Age: 24
Marital status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: D S
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 8




The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Louisa E F AGOMBAR Page 3 of 8 View transcript


Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
JELUNGA
A W Mann
Queensland, Australia
4786
3372
298

Looks like she went with a sister

Name: Louisa E F AGOMBAR
Date of departure: 23 June 1891
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Bowen, Australia
Passenger destination: Bowen, Australia

Date of Birth: 1863 (calculated from age)
Age: 28
Marital status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: D S
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 8




The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Emily M AGOMBAR Page 3 of 8 View transcript


Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
JELUNGA
A W Mann
Queensland, Australia
4786
3372
298

1891 census transcription details for: 3, Avenue Road, Hampstead

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 110
Folio: 84
Page: 25
Reg. District: Hampstead
Sub District: Hampstead
Parish: Hampstead
Enum. District: 24
Ecclesiastical District: St Paul
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 3, Avenue Road, Hampstead
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MARTINEZ, Frederick B Head Married M 60 1831 Commission Merchant
Saufucar, Spain
MARTINEZ, Marian Wife Married F 46 1845
Clapham, London
MARTINEZ, Constance Daughter Single F 21 1870
Clapham, London
AGAMBAR, Louisa Servant Single F 25 1866 General Servant
Hackney, London>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I,m sure you have all this but posting for our info too.

Name: Emily Martha Agombar
Spouse Name: Patrick Dobbins
Marriage Date: 24 Jan 1893
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Number: 001724
Page Number: 124

so do you have the cert and does it give any parents names?

SO this may help

Name: Patrick Dobbins
Death Date: 24 Oct 1920
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: James Dobbins >>>>>>
Mother's Name: Mary Horan >>>>
Registration Year: 1920
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 005259
Page Number: 419

one of their children

Name: John Agombia Dobbins
Death Date: 11 Aug 1901
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: Patrick Dobbins
Mother's Name: Emily Agombia
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 002516
Page Number: 6680

and from his first marriage??
Name: James Dobbins
Death Date: 2 Feb 1878
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: Patrick Dobbins
Mother's Name: Ellen Tobin
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 002624
Page Number: 3850

New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 about Patrick Dobbins
Name: Patrick Dobbins
Port of Departure: Brisbane
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 8 Nov 1872
Vessel Name: Lord Ashley

Queensland, Australia, Passenger Lists, 1848-1912 about Louisa Emelia Agombar
Name: Louisa Emelia Agombar
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1863
Place of Origin: Middlesex, England
Ship Name: Jelunga
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 17 Aug 1891


??
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Louisa Agombar
Name: Louisa Agombar
Spouse Name: John James Sands
Marriage Date: 14 Jul 1894
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Number: 001897
Page Number: 124

so gives their parents names
Name: Louisa Amelia Sands
Death Date: 7 Jun 1941
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: John Agoambar>>>>
Mother's Name: Annie Fowle <<<
Registration Year: 1941
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: B052298
Page Number: 2055

1871 census
Name: John Agomber
[John Agombar]
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anne Agombe
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green
Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 28c
Household schedule number: 1023
Piece: 40
Folio: 94
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
John Agomber 44
Anne Agombe 40
Humphrey Moore 27
James Moore 25
William Moore 23
Kate Moore 22
Charlotte Agomber 17
Anne Agomber 15
Harriet Agomber 13
Sarah Agomber 11
Louisa Agomber 8 >>>>>>>>>>
Emma Agomber 4 >>>>>>>>>>
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 40; Folio: 94; Page: 23; GSU roll: 824565.


Marriages Sep 1852 (>99%)
Agombar John Edward Whitechapel 1c 778

Moore Ann Maria Whitechapel 1c 778


not Fowle . they have some Moore family living with them as per the 1871 census above

1861 England Census about John E Agombar
Name: John E Agombar
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann M Agombar
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:772 Kingshead Let

Occupation:shoemaker

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Holywell
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 266
Piece: 231
Folio: 147
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
John E Agombar 31
Ann M Agombar 37
Katherine Agombar 12
Ann Agombar 6
Hannah Agombar 3
Sarah Agombar 1

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 231; Folio: 147; Page: 50;

Deaths Mar 1906
AGOMBAR John Edward 76 Hackney 1b 348

Seems I have wasted my time cos you know all this anyway.

If you want further help it would be courteous to list what you already know.

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Hi Shirley, Thank you for your posts. I assure you that it wasn't a complete waste of time, there were some bits of information I didn't have and every bit helps to fill in the gaps and sometimes to verify other relationships

Hi Shirley, Thank you for your posts. I assure you that it wasn't a complete waste of time, there were some bits of information I didn't have and every bit helps to fill in the gaps and sometimes to verify other relationships

My research so far has found a number of relatives although some need to be verified..

Patrick Dobbins b1846 d1920 was the son of James Dobbins b1810 d1896 and Mary Horan b1812 d1877. His Grandfather possible James Dobbins b1789.
Partrick's first marriage was to Ellen Tobin b? d1887. they had two children Catherine & Mary Dobbins.
In 1893 m Emily Martha Agombar b1866 d1945 and had three children - Violet Louisa b1894, Theresa May b1897 & John b1899 d1901.
Theresa May married my Grandfather Tasman Hugh McConnell b1896 and they had three children Thelma b1922 d2003, Neale Alexander b1924 d1996 & Brian b 1931

The Agombar/Hagombart name seems to go a long way back to France. so far I have found references back to the latter part of the 1400's but need to verify. This family may have been French aristocrats and there are some references to marriages between several generations of the family to members of the Le Counte family.

There were some Le Counte's involved and another was Le Grande.