Genealogy Chat

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Wendy

Ooh, Wendy! Sorry to have taken so long to get back and find your kind message.

I hadn't yet found their deaths so that is wonderful for my tree. Very, many thanks.

Just bought my large file and plastic sleeves so that I have a back-up to show relatives.

wonderful thank you!!! :-D :-D :-D

This is a possible for Williams death

We know he was alive and in Bristol in 1881 and deceased by Theresa's marriage in 1889. It is the only William Fletcher death between 1871 and 1889 in Bristol. It would make him born 1831/32

Deaths Sep 1881 (>99%)
FLETCHER William 49 Bristol 6a 19

and a POSSIBLE death fro Mary Ann

Deaths Sep 1893 (>99%)
Fletcher Mary Ann 60 Bristol 6a 14

Wendy

Spent an enjoyable day looking through all these finds and it's all amazing, I don't think that I would have ever managed to do it all by myself. Many thanks to everybody who contributed, I'm very grateful.

Now I'm going to find William Fletcher's first wife, mother of Therese(a) and Amy.

:-D :-D :-D

Thanks patchem, I've taken a look, fancy transcribing it as such! It's all beginning to make a bit of sense to me now. The sweat is dripping off me!! I'm off to buy some files tomorrow for my new records.

I can see now that the 'Hatcher' children were just misspelled, maybe. :-)

Visitor is what I think you are referring to?
(It is stating their relationship to head of household)

Thank you for that 'find' Tenerife Sun re Census 1871, all the dates fit well.

Thank you, patchem. If the above is Therese and Amy I'm guessing they wouldn't be also on 1871 Census in a different place. I'm trying to understand the document, have you the time to explain our difficulty, please. I'm wondering what the words 'kidor' alongside the children's names mean. Sorry to be so ignorant. Nor worries if you are short on time but it's all been invaluable and the information I have been able to relay to family has been so warmly received.

Many thanks all. :-) S

Just got back online to find so much invaluable input. Will be taking time to go through it all, thanking you all so much for all your time, kindness and efforts :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

POSSIBLY another child for Theresa and William Webber


Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Webber Harry Fletcher Stockport 8a 63

1861 occupation of silver plater

Name: William Fletcher
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Dublin, Ireland

Civil parish: Walsall Borough
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Piece: 2013
Folio: 39
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Jenkins 49
Levi Mounson 39
William Fletcher 31
William Oxford 45
Charles Jenkins 12
Richard Chamberlain 47
John Dyes 39
John Brealey 21
Edward Batt 47
Henry Lord 30
James Letwich 14
Joseph Green 39
William Smith 42
Benjamin Cook 50

Class: RG 9; Piece: 2013; Folio: 39; Page: 28; GSU roll: 542903.

Think it shows as unmarried

I found it on FMP

This is ancestry (possibly explains our difficulty)
1871 England Census
Joseph Harriet Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maryann Harriet
Gender: Male Where born: Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 36 Piece: 3109 Folio: 60 Page Number: 6
Joseph Harriet 35
Maryann Harriet 45
William Hatcher 40 married silversmith Dublin
Theresa Hatcher 6
Amy Hatcher 3
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3109; Folio: 60; Page: 6; GSU roll: 839575.

the 1881 that Glitter Baby found (re posted for reference) on the original it says....

Mary Woodhall Step daughter
Malinda Woodhall Step daughter
Amy Fletcher daughter
Richard Bees Father in law
Mary Bees Mother in law

Address 15 Lower Castle Street, Bristol

William was a silver plater

William Fletcher 50
Mary A. Fletcher 47
Mary Woodhall 16
Malinda Woodhall 14
Amy Fletcher 12
Richard Bees 85
Mary Bees 72
William Sage 25
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Wendy

Good find for 1871

Shame can not find it on Ancestry. Wonder if on FMP.

Maureen

This fits, Theresa, Amy and father William.

name: Theresa Fletcher
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Female
age: 6
relationship to head of household: Visitor
birthplace: London, Middlesex
record type: Household
registration district: Birmingham
sub-district: St Peter
event parish: Birmingham
county: Warwickshire
  Household Gender Age Birthplace
self Joseph Harriss M 35 Worcestershire
wife Mary Ann Harriss F 45 Staffordshire
>>visitor William Fletcher M 40 Dublin, Ireland (recorded as married)
>>visitor Theresa Fletcher F 6 London, Middlesex
>>visitor Amy Fletcher F 3 London, Middlesex
Source Citation
"England and Wales Census, 1871," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5BZ-VY7 : accessed 17 Aug 2012), Theresa Fletcher in household of Joseph Harriss, Birmingham, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England; citing PRO RG 10/[piece], folio 60, p. 6; Birmingham registration district, St Peter subdistrict, ED 9, household 36, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

Wendy

You mentioned earlier in your post that you'd found a birth registration which couldn't be her because it was in Westminster.

But Soho is in Westminster.

There could be something in this one thank you, Glitterbaby. Yesterday, I definitely saw those 'Bees', a step-family listed on another census with Therese but hadn't got enough to go on. I shall retrace.

Many thanks to everybody. :-)

Yay! patchem!

This was going to be my next search as I had been given a photograph of a lady looking much like Therese Fletcher. I was told that the family member had written Amy O Neill on the back (it was a postcard type taken in Glasgow) and that it might be Therese's sister but was just a guess.

Therese's own daughter was called Amy (her eldest) and that might explain why she eventually settled in Glasgow if her aunt was there??

The names of witnesses on the birth certificates are HJ Coleman and A Taylor, I'm not recognising family but haven't looked into it.

Thank you very much Glitterbaby, I shall take a look this afternoon as I have an appointment this morning. I had seen this one but had discarded it for what reason I can't remember. Knowing me I'm probably wrong, hope so anyway!!

Many thanks to you both for your kind efforts and time given XX :-)

GB,
Yes, I have looked at that one, the London/Soho/Bristol/Plater connection.
Older children (e.g. Therese) sent off as servant(s) because Father remarried is a fairly common occurrence.

1881 I keep looking at this one but no Therese

Name: William Fletcher
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A. Fletcher
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and Jacob In
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 15 Lower Castle St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Silver Plater (Wh Mat)

Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2470
Folio: 30
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
William Fletcher 50
Mary A. Fletcher 47
Mary Woodhall 16
Malinda Woodhall 14
Amy Fletcher 12
Richard Bees 85
Mary Bees 72
William Sage 25



1871
Name: Milnder Woodall
[Melinda Woodall]
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary A Woodall
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol
Civil parish: St Peter
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: Castle Precincts
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 98
Piece: 2522
Folio: 36
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Woodall 38
Alfred Woodall 11
Mary A Woodall 6
Milnder Woodall 4
Mary Bees 66



Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
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Fletcher William Bristol 6a 60
Strange Thomas Bristol 6a 60
Vickery Sarah Bristol 6a 60
Woodall Mary Ann Bristol 6a 60