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Does your friend remember what month and day his birthday was celebrated?

Rose

From FamilySearch, from a user-submitted tree

https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Anellie~%20%2Bsurname%3Agoodchild~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3A%22hertfordshire%20england%22~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1901-1901

Nellie G Goodchild married Sidney Herbert Guess

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name: Nellie G /GOODCHILD/
gender: Female
birth: 1876
Harrow-on-the-Hill
Parents
father: JAMES /GOODCHILD/
mother: ELIZABETH GRACE /SNELL/
Marriages (1)
spouse: Sydney Herbert /GUESS/
marriage: 1901
St Albans, Hertfordshire, England
Submission
submission date: 22 Jul 2012
submission id: MMCW-FBK
person count: 7,862

Good point Janice.

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Romford/

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Romford/#Records

Records
Essex Record Office, Wharf Road Chelmsford CM2 6YT. Relatively few records survive. Holdings include: Guardians' minute books (1836-1930); etc.

Thank you all for your help

If he was only 17 he would have lied about his age anyway to avoid needing consent. Where did the marriage take place, and was it by banns or licence?

From Janice's list of possible deaths I think can we narrow it down a bit?

Charles William Perrin 1888 Jan-Feb-Mar 1976 Hackney London

Born too early?

Charles William Perrin 1894 Jan-Feb-Mar 1974 Lichfield Staffordshire

Too early?

Charles William Perrin 1903 Jul-Aug-Sep 1976 Paddington London

Possible?

Charles William Perrin 1906 Oct-Nov-Dec 1976 Peterborough Cambridgeshire

Possible? Would be about 17 at the time of marriage (1923)

Charles William Perrin 1912 Apr-May-Jun 1973 Birmingham Warwickshire

Too young to be married in 1923.

I think the most likely death is the one in 1976 in Paddington (born 1903). This also makes sense that he is the Charles in the Scattered Home in the 1911 which would explain why he never spoke about his family.

Births Sep 1908
Perrin Rosina Romford 4a 541

A Marriage?

Name: GOODCHILD, Nellie Grace
Registration district: [?] St. Albans County: Hertfordshire
Year of registration: 1901
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: [?] 3A Page no: [?] 1206

Nellie Grace Goodchild married one of the following people

GUESS, Sydney Herbert

PERRIN, Walter

MARTIN, Annie

Interesting Jannie ,thanks.will work on all that has been given .

???Coincidence from 1911 Census

Person: PERRIN, Rosina
Institution: Romford Union Workhouse And Infirmary,
ROMFORD UNION WORKHOUSE AND INFIRMARY

PERRIN, Rosina Inmate F 2 1909 Essex Romford

Romford Address: 1 Oldchurch Road Romford County: Essex

Sheer speculation;
Marriages Sep 1923
Adie Hilda M Goodchild Romford 4a 1382
Goodchild Francis Adie Romford 4a 1382

Thanks Patchem,think i might have to wait to see if any family can come up with any names

Jan,the witnesses where F.Goodchild and H. Goodchild.They lived at 87 Granville Road Kilburn .I have them living there in 1929

Apologies for not thanking you for wishing me feeling better. I woke up with pains in my eye this morning and my mood all day hasn't felt good. I am doped up on paracetamol to try to prevent a full-blown migraine and to try to 'chill' me out somewhat. So far so good.

I took a look at FamilySearch on the off-chance of finding a baptism but came up zero.

If you Google 'Scattered Homes' quite a few sites come up.Maybe one of them will be of use.

xJ

There is a Charles and a Charles William born in Romford in 1903, so 'Charles' in 1911...
Births Jun 1903
Perrin Charles Romford 4a 569
Perrin Charles William Romford 4a 555

Who were the witnesses on his marriage cert? Also, if you have an address, it is possible to look at the electoral register to see if other occupants offer any clues.
Jan

Who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate? They might help find the right Charles in the 1911 census.

Kath. x

Thank you all for your help,i will check tree's and wait to see if any of my friends family can come up with any siblings names.Trouble is he never spoke about his family

In 1905, the Romford Guardians decided to adopt the scattered homes system for its pauper children. Two large semi-detached houses were purchased for use as a receiving and probationary home. Initially, thirty children were housed there under the care of a foster mother and one assistant. On 24th September, 1907, Gertrude Smedley was appointed foster mother of the "cottage homes" at 3, Adelaide Villas, Mawneys, Romford — aged only 19 years she was the youngest ever foster mother employed by the union.. By 1914, there were children's Homes at 5-8 Laurie Square, and 1-2 the Croft, Heath Park Road. In 1914, there were scattered homes operating at Gilmore House, 36 Pelham Road, and Richmond House, 38 Pelham Road, Ilford. In 1929, there were homes at 26-28 Manor Road, 42-44 Brentwood Road, and on King Edward Road.

The address for that census was 5 Laurie Square, so looks like Charles was effectively in the workhouse.