Genealogy Chat

I will keep you posted, thank you so much. Its all very interesting and exciting! X

Here's another 1911 suspect! No twins here but there is a brother called Peter. Wrong generation for your mum's recollection, but right name.

Name: James Maloney
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 38 Beaufoy Road, Lavender Hill, Battersea
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: East Battersea

Michael Maloney 30 postman b st georges east
Alice Maloney 31 b islington
James Maloney 5 b lambeth
Peter Maloney 1 b battersea
Kathleen Maloney 3 b lambeth

Guess it's all speculation now till your certs arrive :-)

Please let me know how you get on - I've really got into this story today.

Good luck,
Janice

Hi Laura, what do you think of this candidate in the 1911 census?


1911 England Census about James Maloney
Name: James Maloney
Age in 1911: 5 (as he hasn't had his birthday yet)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 60 Kingsbury Road, Islington, London N
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Highbury

Household Members:
Name Age
James Maloney 38 a tailor, born Stepney
Maud Maloney 28 born Norwich
Maud Maloney 8 born Finsbury
James Maloney 5 born Finsbury
Terence Maloney 1born Islington
Patrick Maloney 1 born Islington

Would your mum know if June ever talked about her parents? Or does your mum remember meeting them?

Births Dec 1905
Maloney James Charles Marylebone 1a 461

It might be worth pursuing James William's family if possible as they could have useful info or even photos if you're lucky :-)

I really appreciate your help Janice - thank you so much, you have given me so much to go on and so much information to give mum in law considering she knows practically nothing about her family tree - she will be touched and pleased x

This is interesting on the probate records:

MALONEY James Charles of 152 Eversholt Street London NW1 died 5th April 1965 at Whittington Hospital Highgate Wing London N19. Administration London 18th May to James William Maloney machine winder £3792

These middle names are a match for June's father and twin brother.

ADDED: it is the right family - just checked the electoral roll and Ethel is there too at number 152 Eversholt St.

Am sure that it would have been!

The separation must have been after 1960 then unless there's another Victor and June Ford couple!

Does your mum know anything about June's twin brother? Actually, just realised she probably doesn't as she thought his name was Peter but it's James!

Have been trying to find a Maloney family with child james in 1911 but there are a few. One of them interestingly has a pair of twin boys and is in Islington so they are my prime suspects at the moment! James and Ethel's marriage cert would give the father's name if you wanted to pursue it.

No they separated but not sure if they divorced.

Thank you - am starting to get the hang of the searches :-)

Do you know if Victor/Dorris and June stayed together?

EDIT - looks like they did

In 1960 they were living at 187 Junction road, Islington N19
according to the electoral register.

There are some Ford MMN Maloney births in Liverpool but there's also a marriage that they are probably linked to, also in Liverpool in 1947. You can see them for yourself on FreeBMD

Search births, surname Ford, mother surname Maloney.

The boy was a "Bobby" btw

They were brought up by non family members. Is that a boy born to a June Rose Ford? That is interesting as mum in law can remember her mother leaving for a long period of time and told me that she thought she may have connections "up north". She is also convinced that she can remember a little boy visiting with her mother for a short while which is why she is so keen to find out re siblings! I will purchase the death certificate thank you and once again thanks for your fantastic help.

I've looked on Ancestry and I can't see any likely suspects for siblings. There are only 2 more births after Janette's, one is in Willesden but it is the next quarter after Janette. Then there is a boy the following year in Liverpool. I would think this one highly unlikely as they seem to have stayed London based.

It might be worth buying both death certs if you can afford to, so that you can see who the informants are. If there were any more children, this might lead to them.

Were the girls brought up by other family members or non-related families?

I will have a look at that then thanks.

Mum in law did say that she was born in Sept 1932 but she is very vague on the details - I believe that she was put out as it were along with her sister at a very young age as the mother couldn't cope. She is just concerned that her mother went on to have more children and she could have siblings she doesn't know about.

You have been so helpful thanks - I will get searching with all the links you have provided.

This one could be June's father:

Name: James C Maloney
Birth Date: abt 1906
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1965
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: St Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 828

Here's the other death - do you know if that date of birth is correct?

Name: June Rose Ford
Birth Date: 3 Jun 1932
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1972
Age at Death: 40
Registration district: Enfield
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5b
Page: 549

Just realised - there's a very large age difference between them isn't there? June died quite young.

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http://www.ancestry.co.uk/

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