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My great great grandfather John Bonner was born 1806 (East Indies British subject). He is in the 1851 census living in UK but not the 1841 or the 1861 census. How can I look for him and where? :-S
In 1851 he is living with children but not with a wife. I cannot trace a marriage either.

Is this him in 1861?

SCOTT, William Head Married M 25 1836 Butcher Newcastle upon Tyne All Saints VIEW
SCOTT, Mary Wife Married F 25 1836 Tweedmouth, Northumberland VIEW
SCOTT, Margaret Daughter F 2 1859 Elswick, Northumberland VIEW
SCOTT, Andrew Son M 0 (11M) 1861 Elswick, Northumberland VIEW
BONNER, John Boarder Widower M 54 1807 Teacher Of Dancing East Indies Calcutta British Subject VIEW
BONNER, David Boarder Unmarried M 23 1838 Factory Engineman Tweedmouth, Northumberland VIEW
BARRIS, Margaret Servant F 12 1849 Newcastle All Saints VIEW

Piece: 3815
Folio: 7
Page: 7
Registration District: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Civil Parish: Elswick
Municipal Borough: Newcastle upon Tyne
Address: 1, Mill Lane, Elswick, Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland

Married overseas?

Children? Born where - and when?

Are they on later census returns?

He could have returned to his birthplace - do you have a record of his death?

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1841 census -

BONNAR, John M 34 1807 Foreign VIEW
BONNAR, Isabella F 34 1807 VIEW
BONNAR, Elizabeth F 10 1831 VIEW
BONNAR, James M 8 1833 VIEW
BONNAR, Edgar M 7 1834 VIEW
BONNAR, Mary F 5 1836 VIEW
BONNAR, David M 3 1838 VIEW

Piece: 318
Book/Folio: 9/13
Page: 21
Registration District: Berwick upon Tweed
Civil Parish: Tweedmouth
Municipal Borough: Berwick
Address: End Back Street, West, Tweedmouth, Berwick
County: Durham

1851 census -

BONNER, John Head Widower M 45 1806 Dancing Master East Indies British Subject VIEW
BONNER, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Durham, Eng VIEW
BONNER, James Son M 18 1833 Carpenter Durham, Eng VIEW
BONNER, Edgar Son M 17 1834 Minor Durham, Eng VIEW
BONNER, Mary Daughter F 15 1836 Durham, Eng VIEW
BONNER, David Son M 13 1838 Minor Durham, Eng VIEW

Piece: 2419
Folio: 145
Page: 38
Registration District: Alnwick
Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address: Hauxley Batliff Tarrace
County: Northumberland

So he was on 1841 and 1861................

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Deaths Mar 1848 (>99%)
Bonner Isabella Gray Alnwick 25 205

1881 census for John's son, Edgar???????????

BONNER, Edgar Head Married M 47 1834 Hammer Brakesman Iron Tweedsmouth, Northumberland VIEW
BONNER, Jane Susannah Wife Married F 38 1843 Northumberland, Northumberland VIEW
BONNER, Edgar William Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland VIEW
BONNER, Robert Henry Son Single M 12 1869 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland VIEW
BONNER, David Son Single M 8 1873 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland VIEW
BONNER, Arthur Harris Son Single M 4 1877 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland VIEW
BONNER, Margaret Jane Daughter Single F 0 1881 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland VIEW
ROBSON, Henry Begin Stepson Single M 20 1861 Boot Finisher Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland VIEW
ROBSON, William Stepson Single M 17 1864 Boot Clicker Gateshead, Durham VIEW
ROBSON, Mary Step Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland VIEW

Piece: 5055
Folio: 126
Page: 7
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Civil Parish: Elswick
Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Tweed St, Elswick
County: Northumberland


Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%)
Bonner Edgar Newcastle T. 10b 186
ROBSON Jane Susannah Newcastle T. 10b 186

Reggie,
What is the connection to the death you have posted in 1843 please?

The 1848 death belongs to this child:

Births Jun 1845
BONNER Isabella Grey Berwick 25 9

Deaths Mar 1848
Bonner Isabella Gray Alnwick 25 205

Here is the wife's death:

Deaths Dec 1843
BON_ER Isabella Berwick Tweed 25 11

Rose

Have you seen this?

http://genforum.genealogy.com/bonner/messages/609.html

Rose

Lynski

The 1843 death was that of John's wife - as per the LDS site

A huge thank you Lynski, Reggie and MarieCeleste. Quick work! I am fairly new to all this. I have traced quite a lot of my mothers family and I'm now working on my father's side. I missed John Bonner in 1841 as it is spelt Bonnar, but undoubtedly the same. Similarly in 1861 John was living with his daughter and son in law. Thank you for all your help. It will now take me a while to update my tree!
Reggie - what is the LDS site?

Ok. I see that now.

Sorry, Patricia - should have been more explicit

The LDS site is at.................

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

Reggie, Thank you but I won't be using a site run by the Church of Latter Day Saints

Patricia, there are no religious connotations to the site. It is one of the most widely used genealogical resources.

No different to using parish records that may be of a different denomination to one's own.

Patricia, the FamilySearch site is one of the most valuable resources for genealogists. By using it you are not endorsing the Latter Day Saints, who have made their data available free of charge. It has been compiled to aid their interest in retrospective baptism and its sources are a great complement to worldwide published BMD records.

Your loss, Patricia

And prejudice is not a nice trait

Perhaps you should ignore all the helpful info we've provided from that site.

Have deleted the info I found from the LDS site as Patricia may not approve of it's source.