Genealogy Chat

can anyone help,
i am looking for the death of eliza elizabeth rudrum,
on the 1911 census she is with her husband john rudrum & a couple of children& grandchildren,at 46 albion rd gt yarmouth norfolk,
the only death i can find for a eliza is in mitford norfolk,this is not my eliza,

john died in 1921,he is in the wills section but i do not have paying membership to ansestry,so a look up here to see if she was alive when he died would be a starting point for me to try and track her death,
it would be interesting to see if he left anything,
if anyone could find any detail's about this i would be greatful,

sue

he left £797 to his widow Eliza Elizabeth . address is given as 46 Albion Rd Gt Yarmouth

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name:John Rudrum
Probate Date: 10 Jan 1922
Death Date: 1 Dec 1921
Death Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Registry: Norwich

probate granted to Eliza Elizabeth Rudrum widow £797 0s 6d

thank's rutland now i know she was alive up to 1921,

thank's tempest

why are you so sure that the death in 1937 is not her? The age on the death certificate is only as good as the person giving the information knows.

could her names have been swapped around

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Elizabeth E Rudrum
Birth Date: abt 1854
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1940
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Liverpool North
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 635

i checked it out while it is free on ancestry,it came up with a link to the 1911 census,it was not my eliza ,this eliza is living with her parent's ,it is the wrong surname .also my eliza's mum lived with her in gt yarmouth till death.

thank's tempest i will look at the possibility that it may be her.

If it's of any interest, Eliza Rudrum was a key witness in a murder trial in 1900/01.

If you want a copy of the newspaper article let me know.

hi marie,
eliza was my ggrandmother,i have the book called the gt yarmouth mystery,which tell's the story,the young woman who was murdered was staying with john & eliza,when she went out that evening eliza was looking after her baby,
thank's for your offer ,it was very thoughtful of you.

Posting 1911 census for details of her age:

1911 England Census about Eliza Rudrum
Name: Eliza Rudrum
[Eliza Duffield]
Age in 1911: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Chatham, Kent
Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address: 46 Albion Road, Great Yarmouth
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 36
Estimated Marriage Year: 1875
Registration district: Yarmouth
Registration District Number: 219
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 255
Piece: 11088
Household Members:
Name Age
John Rudrum 61
Eliza Rudrum 56
Edward Rudrum 19
Henry Rudrum 16
Eliza Duffield 75
Milliesent Rudrum 14
Hilda Rudrum 11

Rose

This is on a tree on Ancestry:

Eliza Elizabeth Duffield
27 Dec 1857 - 17 Feb 1896
Born: Chatham, Kent, England
Died: Lewisham, London, England

It amazes me how inaccurate these trees are. Where did these dates come from?

Rose

hi rose,
thank you for the census,this is my family,the only true fact on the tree from ancestry is the name and place of birth,
that is why you should check out any detail's people find for you or your tree will not make any sense,
all the detail's on the census are correct,her elderly mother is living with them ,that is how i know the eliza who died in mitford 1937 is not my eliza,as this eliza died the same quarter as her husband george,

thank's again,
sue

Is there a possibility that Eliza may have remarried using her maiden name and not her married name? Remarriage seemed to be quite common among some of my ancestors even in their later years.

hi jenE i thought that but i have gone through the marriages under rudrum & her maiden name duffield with no luck,
i have tried all way's to find her death without success,
the only thing i haven't looked at is if she went abroad,but she was about 66yrs old when her husband died,
did older ladies go abroad in the 1920s, still i will continue to search, she must be registered somewhere,

not sure what detail's you can get on ancestry but could someone please look up the marriage of,

eliza e duffield & alfred palmer.
march 1923.
norwich norfolk.
i am hoping eliza is a widow aged about 67yrs old.


jenE this marriage did not show up on gene's thank's for prompting me to look again while marriage record's are fre to view.

You would need to purchase the cert to see any details

Name: Eliza E Duffield
Spouse Surname: Palmer
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1923
Registration district: Norwich
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 225
Find Spouse: Find Spouse
Alfred A Palmer

thank you jax.

Have you tracked down all her children? Where did they all settle?

Rose