Genealogy Chat

Hi, thanks for the message. Yes, we already have a copy of the papers and,agaim, there is no further information.

Have you got his admistration of estate papers?

Joseph Pedley Ablett
Probate Date: 2 Mar 1908
Death Date: 16 Feb 1908
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London
of 39 Eckstein Rd, Clapham Junction

To Sydney Robert Ablet, Commercial Clerk. £30 0s 1d

It is possible that further details of relationships might be listed. But then again, it might not. If he is a direct or close ancestor, it might be worth purchasing it for £6

edit - you were given this on one of your other threads. Some people have said that Administration records have to state who might be entitled to a share and why. Administration means that no Will was left, and is granted so that the estate can be disposed of. If a Will had been left, Probate would have been granted

No worries - just checking!!

Now on the search to find out why Sidney was buried in a Sp Mem grave.

Sorry..yes/..Alice White.there were two on the page.....as always, given a 50/50 I called wrong!!

Derek.

Thanks for the clarification mgnv : ) it's all these little snippets that really do helkpl when you are sat at home researching x

From 1837-1898, only C of E, jews, quakers, and the registrar were authorized to keep official marr registers. If a non-conformist marr took place, the registrar had to attend to record the details in his register, and in actual fact to complete the marriage ceremony by having the couple sign his register. After 1898, non-conformists were authorized to keep official registers (this excluded RCs until 1980-ish). Of course, pre-1898, non-conformists could keep whatever private records they fancied.

Derek - we had his wife as Alice White ..... ?

Indeed we do. We are also currently looking into his grave:

http://www.cwgc.org/plans/15-61/M002.GIF

I presume you know that Sidney Robert Ablett died 25.05.1916 on "Flanders Field"........he married LILLIAN BIGGS at Wandsworth JFM 1905... might be worth looking at the Marriage certificate for parents names.....................if there is no mother..then he was illegitimate.....

Afraid we haven't Chris - we can't trace their births!

Sidney Abletts death, however, is well docuemnted:

ABLETT, SIDNEY ROBERT

Rank:
Private
Service No:
4051
Date of Death:
25/05/1916
Age:
29
Regiment/Service:
London Regiment

23rd Bn.
Grave Reference
Sp. Mem. 6.
Cemetery
CABARET-ROUGE BRITISH CEMETERY, SOUCHEZ

Additional Information:

Son of Joseph Pedley Ablett, M.A., and Mrs. Ablett; husband of S. R. Casselman (formerly Ablett), of 310, King St., West Brockville, Ontario, Canada.

Adelaide Riva was 23 in 1881...........

That's assumed me Derek! I wish this forum had a 'like' button as per some social networking sites!!

I take it you haven't got one of his sons birth certificates

Chris

Joseph Pedley Ablett died 16.02.1908 of 39 Eckstein Road Clapham..letf his Estate of £30.08.1d..to his son Sydney..a Commercial Clerk.

I think since there is no sign of a marriage for a very well-documented University man.....it might be worth thinking that he never actually married......His "housekeeper" aged 25 to his 34......might have been a very attractive bedwarmer......but then i've got that sort of mind!! lol

Derek.

Sorry GlitterBaby - I'm working on this one every evening atm ...approaching it from different perspectives ... I promise to give up soon! x

Hi Chris

Housekeepers marriage details below - just to look for death:

Name: Adelaide Mary Riva
Spouse Name: Louis William Adams Whisker, widower, stock exchange clerk
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Dec 1882
Parish: Willesden St Mary
Borough: Brent
Father Name: Giovani Riva (dec) professor of music
Spouse Father Name: Louis William Whisker, Captain RN
Register Type: Parish Register

H x

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1289952

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1296193


More information on previous threads

BUT as the marriage has not been found by now !!!!!

Have you found the housekeepers death, in either her surname or Ablett. I did wonder if the housekeeper was mum to his children.

Chris

Great minds Derek ... I've already done it (again, no go!).

I've even started to think that the children were 'adopted' and looked for brothers born around the given dates in said areas!

Try the housekeeper !!!..even Methodists aren't saints.....

Derek