Genealogy Chat

Hi guys

I am struggling to find a marriage which we assume would have taken place approx 1880. My family were strict Wesleyan Methodists (although I admit I know very little of their faith/religion).

Would their marriages be recorded on GR? Or somewhere else?

I have tried IGI with no success.

Thanks in advance, H x

Have you tried FMP.

If you put some details up perhaps someone may be able to find the marriage for you.

Chris

Have you tried looking here


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

I have many family members who where Methodists in 19th century. They do not seem to show on parish records (not C of E) or IGI. They will however be in the GRO records and should be on Free BMD.

Andy

Hi Chris

I am looking on FMP at the moment - although I've only got a freebie subscription.

The marriage is for Joseph Pedley Ablett b.1846 in St Ives, Huntingdon - I have census docs throughout his life. He appears in the 1881 as unmarried living with his housekeeper in Brixton, then in 1891 as married with 2 children in Greenwick and then (after the death of one of his sons) in 1901 as widowed in Battersea.

H x

Cheers guys - again, FreeBMD is another one I have checked .... no show!

We can trace J P Ablett to Cambridge University and the University of London in relation to Mathematics ... but no marriage!! Typical lol x

Try the housekeeper !!!..even Methodists aren't saints.....

Derek

Great minds Derek ... I've already done it (again, no go!).

I've even started to think that the children were 'adopted' and looked for brothers born around the given dates in said areas!

Have you found the housekeepers death, in either her surname or Ablett. I did wonder if the housekeeper was mum to his children.

Chris

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1289952

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1296193


More information on previous threads

BUT as the marriage has not been found by now !!!!!

Hi Chris

Housekeepers marriage details below - just to look for death:

Name: Adelaide Mary Riva
Spouse Name: Louis William Adams Whisker, widower, stock exchange clerk
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Dec 1882
Parish: Willesden St Mary
Borough: Brent
Father Name: Giovani Riva (dec) professor of music
Spouse Father Name: Louis William Whisker, Captain RN
Register Type: Parish Register

H x

Sorry GlitterBaby - I'm working on this one every evening atm ...approaching it from different perspectives ... I promise to give up soon! x

Joseph Pedley Ablett died 16.02.1908 of 39 Eckstein Road Clapham..letf his Estate of £30.08.1d..to his son Sydney..a Commercial Clerk.

I think since there is no sign of a marriage for a very well-documented University man.....it might be worth thinking that he never actually married......His "housekeeper" aged 25 to his 34......might have been a very attractive bedwarmer......but then i've got that sort of mind!! lol

Derek.

I take it you haven't got one of his sons birth certificates

Chris

That's assumed me Derek! I wish this forum had a 'like' button as per some social networking sites!!

Adelaide Riva was 23 in 1881...........

Afraid we haven't Chris - we can't trace their births!

Sidney Abletts death, however, is well docuemnted:

ABLETT, SIDNEY ROBERT

Rank:
Private
Service No:
4051
Date of Death:
25/05/1916
Age:
29
Regiment/Service:
London Regiment

23rd Bn.
Grave Reference
Sp. Mem. 6.
Cemetery
CABARET-ROUGE BRITISH CEMETERY, SOUCHEZ

Additional Information:

Son of Joseph Pedley Ablett, M.A., and Mrs. Ablett; husband of S. R. Casselman (formerly Ablett), of 310, King St., West Brockville, Ontario, Canada.

I presume you know that Sidney Robert Ablett died 25.05.1916 on "Flanders Field"........he married LILLIAN BIGGS at Wandsworth JFM 1905... might be worth looking at the Marriage certificate for parents names.....................if there is no mother..then he was illegitimate.....

Indeed we do. We are also currently looking into his grave:

http://www.cwgc.org/plans/15-61/M002.GIF

Derek - we had his wife as Alice White ..... ?