Genealogy Chat

I just thought I'd mention the death registration in case it was not known :)

I saw that Charles F Sigg in 1871 and it is definitely a letter F on the census image but I'd be happy to send the image to you if you would like to see it. I thought it was a possibility before I saw the F because the father Charles is a cabinet maker and his father Charles on the marriage parish register (from ancestry) is a carpenter. And I saw the place of birth being out of the area, yet his brother was born in approximately the right area.

I did wonder about that middle name, but thought I'd post it anyway.

Maybe he didn't start out with the middle name...?
Someone on my tree was named Daniel and was baptised and married twice with that name.
Only at his 3rd marriage did he invent a middle name for himself.

Gwyn

Interesting, he does claim to be born in Fulham/Putney and give his middle name as Matthew but the year is good and so is the father's trade ! Thanks.

What about this Charles, whose father is a cabinet maker..?

Name: Charles F Sigg
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles Sigg
Mother's Name: Martha G Sigg
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 277
Piece: 651
Folio: 76
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Sigg 30
Martha G Sigg 28
Charles F Sigg 3
Edwin J Sigg 5 Months

According to the marriage entry, the father Charles SIGGS was a carpenter.

Gwyn

We know about his later life and death Joy, it's the early bit that's a mystery :-)
I'm assuming he's illegitimate Ken, maybe registered in his mother's name or similar scenario.

Kevin, on the marriage form it gives his age as 24 on 17th April 1892 which means he could have been born in 1867.

Have you considered that the father given on the marriage certificate is made up? I have that situation in my tree. Perhaps he was born Charles Matthew(s) and took the Siggs name later.

Have you seen his death registration?

Charles M Siggs
Registered December qr 1949
Age 80
Registration district: Wandsworth
Volume: 5d Page: 711

That's what I don't know. Where he was, who his parents were. Charles Siggs was his father. Which Charles Siggs? At the turn of the century there were 4 Charles Matthew Siggs in London (that I know of).

where is he in 1871? presumably not with his parents?

Presume this is the marriage, in which case they should be able to supply the cert

Marriages Jun 1892
Fisher Eliza Jane Woolwich 1d 1793
Gawler Katie Woolwich 1d 1793
SIGGS Charles Woolwich 1d 1793
THYNNE Oscar William Woolwich 1d 1793

Thanks for that and thanks to Piglets Pal who has been helpful beyond the call of duty !! :-)

Since they upped their prices they refund your money if they cannot supply a cert.
Somewhere on the site it explains.
Edit
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Not sure.

If a certificate is ordered through GRO and they can't supply one, is there a charge ?

Replied, ta

Thanks, I'm not on there. My paid subscription is for FMP... Gets costly, doesn't it ?!? :-)

Kevin are you on Ancestry? There is a lot on there about both Charles Siggs. Including copy of marriage cert.

I am sending you a PM

This Charles Matthew is in Woolwich in the 1891 census, married a Katie Gawler in 1892

Kevin depending on whereabouts it could easily be the Fulham/Putney boundaries.

My family came from the Fulham/Chelsea area and used both!!

Our ancestors did not make life easy for us did they :-S

UPDATE:

There are as I am sure you are aware 2 Charles Siggs (Charles Matthew & Charles Albert)
Charles Albert seems to have been from the Woolwich area. And I have found loads on him.
Your Charles Mattew is a bit more elusive.

Thanks people. Penny, it's Charles Matthew Siggs born about 1869. I've sat for hours putting in variations on spelling :-) I need to find out who his parents were. On census returns he has recorded his birthplace as Fulham and Putney as well.